Ozay Rinpoche giving instructions for the coming conversation:
@all
To start with; always speak the truth, no polishing egos even if it upsets apple carts, then observe yourself as you write, then, observe yourself when there is reaction back, you will likely make lots of reaction by others, and there will be instinctive reactions in yourself, fight and flight mechanisms etc.
Always be honest how you feel and about who you have become, always be true about what you see in others as flaws, they will be more than honest about your flaws, this Dharma is only for the courageous
If you are not working well with this Dharma then you will be taken by the instincts of ego, which means your reactions will be unintelligent, your reasoning faculty and higher mind will hit the floor.
But, if you are successful then you will not be touched by negative reaction of others, YOU WILL NOT BE TAKEN BY YOUR ANGER HATE JEALOUSY RESENTMENTS, YOUR DUAL NATURE WILL EVENTUALLY MELT AWAY, the fight and flight biological reactions will participate less thus you become more in control of your life and your health.
The more you practice the better you become.
This keeping one eye in and one eye out will over flow eventually to ordinary life, self awareness eventually will lead to blissful states this is purifying yourself to reach higher level of realisation.
Of course there is a lot more to it than I can explain in one post, but you get the basics I guess.
Responds of Ahiranta:
@all
Yes speaking truth in all situations is not easy without seeing peoples feeling being hurt by what has been said.
For example, we just had to spend 2 days with people who live life in a totally different way that we do. They talk and talk to spend time with you.
Moments of silence are experienced as a threat, something that need to be avoided at all costs. Listening with interest is after a few hours becoming very difficult and hard work especially when you know that Ozay and I are used to being in silent most of the day, meaning not talking outwardly, of course mind is not silent every moment during each day,
Still, having to listen to each detail of a visit to a shop and I mean each detail from which shoes were on their feet, to the number of bikes parked outside the shop, to the amount of people standing in line, including what they were wearing. All the talk was about describing things like that. Nothing else was ever spoken about!
Interesting opportunity to observe self within such situation, but do we tell them in that moment the truth? That what they are talking about is of no importance to us. What does it say about them? Nothing really does it now. It is saying something about me, that I judge this interesting, and not that what they talk about. It say's something about me that I judge them as talking about a lot of rubbish.
What does it say about me, it shows me that I am in dual mind.
Therefore, let us go the moment I become aware of not being interested in whatever they have to say. I do not speak aloud what I think or feel because that has nothing to do with the truth.
If I would say that they are boring my brains out, it is not a truth, it is a judgement. If I would say, I am judging you because I think I know better things to talk about, better day; what I think are better things to talk about, I am totally wrong in doing so, then yes that would be the truth.
Still would that help them? No it would hurt them without giving them anything, not that we can give another anything, but that is another matter. Therefore truth we are talking about is truth from self, from inner being, not from judgemental mind which produces remarks like:
• I like this,
• you do this wrong,
• I can do that better then you,
• you do not know what you are talking about.
• You, you, you,
instead of taking myself as an example and saying;
• I have experienced this within myself,
• or I have come to see this. etc
Speaking truth forces you to examine all motives behind all you are saying which is a very good way of letting go of attachments to ideas, believes, concepts but also attachment to identity, another person, possessions etc no longer afraid to be seen as a good person only, as a pretty woman or man, a spiritual, wise, sweet, attractive,,....etc.
When we speak truth, focus should closely stay on self because when we come to know self we will know the other in the same moment. Truth will start flowing on its own accord.
As someone said: Buddha had a great answer when some disciple asked: How come you answered the same question in many different ways?
What is the right answer, or remark, in one moment, can be the wrong answer in the next moment, for the next person. That does not mean that Buddha was lying in any form or shape. That does not mean the Buddha did not no truth. Buddha knew self, realized self, and by that he knew straight away were each individual before him stood within his development within mind.
So speaking truth is nothing else then speaking from inner wisdom. Which means that many people will become a lot more quiet.
Responds of Ruchi
@Ahiranta
Hi! What are you saying in the situation... somehow I did not come across reading ... can you help out - what truth did you speak?
Responds of Ahiranta
@ Ruchi
Nothing much. We mostly listen. Most people only talk to be heard, not to listen to what someone else has to say. It is the same in the example I described.
The people I took as an example exist while especially the female, talks. They do not really need you to say anything. The male do asks some questions so now and then but most of the time is interrupted by his wife. This couple is living together for almost 40 years and have developed a routine, so he just leans back and listens as well. So the answer is, we do not say much, we do not preach that there is more to live because they did not ask us too, we do not try to change them, we just accept them as they are, and keep focus on self increasing awareness, which creates love instead of judgement for the so called others.
Responds of .Ruchi
@all
yes, or upset the applecart and create disturbance and upset. Something I try to grow out of.
There are different ways of sharing and expressing ours self that are more empathic...to stay with your feelings and share ... but people get angry at that too...
And yes, you don't want to exclude anyone, but they exclude themselves! It is hard - it's a lonely world for me.
Responds of Annette
@all
Maybe it is not about "fitting in" Ruchi.
Maybe it is a matter of not excluding anyone, exclusivity is something that I'm still contemplating - whether we can really exclude anyone.
Then again, there is great value in who we surround ourselves with, and if the aura is not intact, we can absorb energies of those around us.
When I am undecided on issues like these, I come back to "intention" - as long as we don not see any person as less important or inferior to us in any way. There are so many fine nuances to this journey of the soul! But on this earthly level, much talking around my ears can make that I want to run and scream.
Responds of Ahiranta
@all
Yes, Annette spot on.
Mind wants to run in given example, heart stays in peace and full acceptance of created situation.
Beautiful example is a Buddhist story about a monk sitting on his mountain for a very long period. He has no contact with other human beings and food was left for him on a certain place for him to collect when hungry.
He reached high levels of peace, bliss, and silence. One day he decides to go back down the mountain into the village. He had become so peaceful, so silent, through his spiritual practice high up that mountain away from all influences.
Entering the village he sees that there is a market and he decides to have a look.
Within 5 minutes he finds himself screaming to someone who walked into him hurting his feed. All peace he felt on top of the mountain was lost, all silence had evaporated within a split second. No mastering of self had taken place, no realization of self had taken place all awareness was lost on one split second.
We have to practice, expose our self to all sorts of stimulus to test, to practice, to observe, to do active meditation.
We have to retract into solitude as well, to absorb, to ponder, contemplate, meditate and travel within to, and become our inner silence.
When we be inner silence while on the market place we have come a long way.
Responds of Ruchi
@Annette
What u mean with intention, can u say a bit more.
Editor remark; so far no responds to Ruchi’s question.
Responds of Ahiranta to Ruchi earlier remark; “it's a lonely world for me.”
@all
If it is a lonely world for you that mean that, you still see them and you as separate! When you come to see from your inner source, which is were wisdom awaits you, you come to experience that you are surrounded by loving souls, you see through the outside packaging and connect with each one without them consciously knowing this.
My whole point is, that most people think they speak the truth but they do not. They ventilate judgements, opinions, believes, ideas, moralistic rules etc.
No ego likes “to be told”. NO EGO LIKES “TO BE TOLD!” Including my own.
Becoming is the way that is the less threatening to ego's.
Becoming here meaning; BEING.
Dangerous the uses of words, because if I would say: BE THE EXAMPLE! That would make the ego feel superior which we not want to do.
What helped me tremendously is LISTENING MEDITATION. That has truly increased my awareness in many folds. In addition, what is inner will influence what is outer. Moreover, as Annette said energy surrounding a solid physical form will influence this solid physical form from all directions. However, when we are able to be fluid, all energy just flows into each other without any ownership, while our consciousness, total awareness just observes.
Before I started my inner work with guidance of Ozay, I was just like you Ruchi. I felt an outsider; the world was a lonely place. I felt I did not fit in anywhere; I was an alien without knowing why? I thought for decades that there was something wrong with me. Others seemed to be fitting in just fine. I mostly felt a duck in a swans nest.
That has changed. I went from duck in a swan’s nest, to thinking to be a swan in a duck's nest, which is just as bad, only to arrive in this moment in which I have become all I see around me, meaning that I fit in into any given situation. Meaning, no longer lonely at all.
This I wish for every one, this is the reason why I take the effort to use the computer and share words in the hope that those who are searching as I did will hear, recognize, and start walking inward just like I did before them.
Responds of.Ruchi
@Ahiranta
Thanks. I have mixed responses to your mail, which I will share later, need to get some things done now.
Responds of Ozay Rinpoche
@all
When we apply our lives for other people’s ego, (Mind, personality, Identity) and make room for their variation so that we do not upset them, our lives become like walking on a tightrope, or like living in a prison. The lack of freedom of expression, the expression of our soul can only happen when it is in truth, that soul expression is love.
For many they have been in this prison for so long, institutionalised, not even knowing the prison they live in, for most do not know there is a better world the world of your liberation.
The ego makes it like the tight rope when in company of others: do not say this or they will get upset do not say that or they will think this of me, do not hurt their feelings etc.
We become prisoners of ego, not as free as we should be, not only this we breed even more evil in the world, by conforming to this behaviour as everyone today has.
People need correction as-well as children, the criminals are not the only ones locked behind prison bars and walls, they are in our homes in our families, and they are our sweet grandparents, our parents, our brothers, sisters and friends.
Only people who are ready to make the effort are those who have suffered enough, wish to find an answer ending this suffering, ending being the ball in the wind.
If you do this with people who are not ready, you can cause them irreparable damage. On the other hand, you have chosen to do this dharma practice consciously while they are still living in ignorance, therefore they are always in danger of more suffering than you and also an increased chance of cancers, heart disease, stroke etc ending their physical form, ending their chance of reaching liberation within this life time.
That is why this Dharma practice should only be done with people who come to the Dharma practice on their own accord. The ego is the cause of all kinds of disharmony, both inside the person biologically and outside into the world, lust for power, self-importance, recognition, greed, arrogance, pride and WAR.
Without ego, we would not live such short lives. Many of the illnesses associated with death will cease to be. They are there as a direct result of the unnatural tendency of mind, ego, personality, identity, identifying to create the untruths we are living with. This imbalance of ego causes anger hate resentments jealousies hurt feelings all kinds of unnatural phenomena for the animal that calls himself the highest amongst gods creation can also reach the lowest because of the law of polarity, right now man is the lowest animal because of ego.
Yet ego is the cause of its own demise, anything that is unnatural, as the ego so shall the universal law put back into balance that which is incorrect. That is why everyone eventually takes on suffering until they reach enlightenment. This Dharma practice is just a fast forward for your evolution.
Who is brave enough, who is courageous enough, only warrior class may attend.
Responds of Ahiranta
@all
Attending!
Responds of Annette
@all
Spot on right back at you Ozay, there is the test, silence in the midst of chaos, a great way to gauge! A method I have developed is to tell myself that if I decide to be in company, then I must be there, fully and totally. It is also a way of respecting the people I am with. They deserve our full attention. Everyone deserves our full attention. Maybe one reaches a stage where we do not even consider "pleasant" or "unpleasant" does not even enter into the equation - "equal vision" - to look upon living beings with the "same eyes".
I have a long way to go, but the witness is observing at least. I play like this: Annette = small ego self. My spiritual name Durga = Divine Self.
Durga watches Annette, all the time, and Annette is ridiculous!
Responds of Ruchi
@Ozay
“So why did you not confirm what I said then Rinpoche?”
“About upsetting people: why do you not relating to me?”
“Why this long discourse of words that I know and heard more then a 1000 times from an enlightened one directly?”
Responds of Ahiranta
@all
“Why the need to control, how the other should relate to you?”
“Why the need to determine what the other should or should not say, how long or short their answer should or should not be?”
“Do you think that written words are only meant to serve one personality?”
“Why the need for conformation?”
“Why if you truly know can you not see what is being transmitted?”
“Why do you not see after you have had so many words already from an enlightened one directly?”
“Why are you here?”
“Have you forgotten that you came here to do Dharma practice?”
“Do you not see that all words written may wake someone up?”
“Do you not see that all words written are not for one person but for all?”
“Why do you need someone to relate to you? are you not the same as all others?”
“Why should writing by short? To please you? Making that you can cramp into your day as much stimulation, as much so called important work as you have in mind?”
Many questions are there not.
You do not need to answer any of them for me,
I do not need your answer,
I already know the answers to all the questions above already been answered by me, making me see you because I am just like you.
If your ego still needs to answer them answer them for yourself, you do not need to feel as if you need to defend yourself in any way or form, because that which you might defend is not worth defending.
Responds of Ozay Rinpoche
@ Ruchi. Because this discourse is not just for you Ruchi, it is for others also. If you speak truth, you speak truth, simple, no need for approval, it just "IS" it is only the ego that wishes to be identified with the words it has spoken, it wishes to identify to those words, real truth is freedom from all of this.
@all
When one holds something in the right hand tightly, one thinks this belongs to him or her because of the tension, in truth, that which you hold also holds you; (PRISONER)
Any tension in the body will be a clue towards something, which you hold onto psychologically in this way.
Keep one eye inside and one eye outside, SELF OBSERVATION IS DHARMA.
Responds of .Ruchi
@Ahiranta
Hi nice to meet you here, will share with you later or try to :-)
Responds of Ahiranta
@Ruchi
Ruchi says: "Hi Ahiranta, nice to meet you here, will share with you later or try to :-)"
Beautiful example of how people sweeten their words. Truth spoken lies underneath hidden for most people. What has not been said in words here, but is visible to those who know self is: I am not talking to you Ahiranta!! I want Ozay’s attention! I want to flex my muscles with Ozay! I will deal with you later on and give you some peace of my mind about what I think of you! Now leave me alone, and let me get what I want from Ozay!"
Why do I know this? I did all that myself, and sometimes in unguarded moments still do.
Another thing, which becomes clear when one knows self, is that Ruchi lives from division. This belongs here, and that belongs there. We all divide things into boxes so that we can keep control and make sense of the world through our mind. By doing so we turn people into things, things are easier to control.
People, being things is not far from the truth. Unreal, unrealized people are nothing more then mechanical things.
Truth: Hi, Ruchi I see you.
Responds of Ruchi
@Ozay Rinpoche
Ozay, I do want approval.
I also know the state when you are free from it, as you say, do you feel any tension in the body right now? I do. See you later :-)
Responds of Ozay Rinpoche
@Ruchi Every time we make response there will be tension in the body.
Thought = tension.
The tension produced from ego, emotions are not productive for your over all health this is why we are here to learn to live life in a different way.
There is no one here who is going to give you approval or disapproval again this is an egoistical response coming from your ego, which not seen by your awareness.
Ego runs away from situations. It is a defence mechanism, it wishes to cause damage and run, or it has inflicted damage and runs, being free of ego one wishes to stay and learn more about ones own inner truth.
Responds of Ozay Rinpoche
@all
Annette in theory it works but in action I have found it is difficult to put in practice, for instance you are in company of others and they talk, talk, and talk all the time, they miss everything.
For most people like to listen to themselves and are gratified to think others take notice, my strategy was to silence my mind, be still be present, but the ego needs to know it has your attention.
Therefore, a compassionate act is to listen to every word intensely so that you can nod your head at the right time, say yes at the right time and no at the right time. Just like Annette said earlier to be present with your whole being.
Trouble is when I went silent inside I heard nothing, suddenly I am prompted by facial expressions to make response, often I make right response while on occasion I get it badly wrong. It is a good thing Bianca is sharp witted she bales me out with humour, often!
When you are with people all day, not just a couple of hours, and you have to listen closely, this becomes as much an energy drain for you; if not more of an energy drain for you; than it is for them. Ahiranta and I did work strategies out in order to save this energy; we used our grandson Bobby, who was also present, a lot as a diversion tactic. His innocence and pure mind would recharge us.
If you sit and read a book eventually, it will tire you out. It takes energy, when you sit with people all day who also need attention. This will tire you if you do not have ways to recharge, i.e. stilling at every opportunity in between the gaps, but this takes skill.
Responds of.Aashan Sajangurukkal
@all
hmmm means
his(h)
method(m)
master(m)
methodology(m)
his = Ozay
Responds of Ozay Rinpoche
@Aashan Sajangurukkal
Good morning Aashan how are you today. Nice to see you my Great friend.
Responds of Ahiranta
@Aashan Sajangurukkal
Yes, Aashan that is good one!
hmmm
his(h)
method(m)
master(m)
methodology(m)
h = Aashan Sajangurukkal
Responds of Aashan Sajangurukkal
@Ozay Rinpoche.
Me too very happy to hear you through our words
Responds of Aashan Sajangurukkal
@Ahiranta
I mean this methodology (note of editor: Dharma practice).
I respect this methodology of Ozay and Ahiranta.
(note of editor: Aashan copied and pasted words written by Ozay somewhere else here)
“Within Dharma practice to start with; always speak the truth, no polishing egos even if it upsets apple carts, then observe yourself as you write, then, observe yourself when there is reaction back, you will likely make lots of reaction by others, and there will be instinctive reactions in yourself, fight and flight mechanisms etc” Ozay Rinpoche
Responds of Ahiranta
@Aashan Sajangurukkal
Yes, exactly spot on Aashan!
Exactly when still, truth will flow on own accord, when not still I will be disturb and start talking a lot of crap from the mind
(Note of editor: to make reading a bit easier an earlier responds of first Ruchi followed by Ahiranta is copy and pasted because the thread continues here)
Responds of Ruchi
@Ozay
“So why did you not confirm what I said then Rinpoche?”
“About upsetting people: why do you not relating to me?”
“Why this long discourse of words that I know and heard more then a 1000 times from an enlightened one directly?”
Responds of Ahiranta
@all
“Why the need to control, how the other should relate to you?”
“Why the need to determine what the other should or should not say, how long or short their answer should or should not be?”
“Do you think that written words are only meant to serve one personality?”
“Why the need for conformation?”
“Why if you truly know can you not see what is being transmitted?”
“Why do you not see after you have had so many words already from an enlightened one directly?”
“Why are you here?”
“Have you forgotten that you came here to do Dharma practice?”
“Do you not see that all words written may wake someone up?”
“Do you not see that all words written are not for one person but for all?”
“Why do you need someone to relate to you? are you not the same as all others?”
“Why should writing by short? To please you? Making that you can cramp into your day as much stimulation, as much so called important work as you have in mind?”
Many questions are there not.
You do not need to answer any of them for me,
I do not need your answer,
I already know the answers to all the questions above already been answered by me, making me see you because I am just like you.
If your ego still needs to answer them answer them for yourself, you do not need to feel as if you need to defend yourself in any way or form, because that which you might defend is not worth defending.
Responds of Ruchi
@Ahiranta
Hi Ahiranta, first, it is your interpretation
Second, there is nothing wrong with it even if it where true.
(Referring to me sweeten my words and motives)
I also see a lot of ego strengthening exercise in your talks Ahiranta that both you and Ozay preach to drop and quit nasty you get which in your idea is 'speaking the truth' - or upsetting the applecart. At the same time, preaching.
If truth would be so easy to speak, if truth would be such a simple thing, just to speak;
Ahiranta you have just divided yourself you say: “Ruchi does this, and you Ahiranta do not!”
You, Ahiranta are saying that you only do it sometimes now. If you were over it, you would have found a different way to share.
Nice control trips your doing here yourself, projecting it all on me, ping-pong.
Sure the pong is to come back, pong, pong, pong, pong.
Crystal-clear ha-ha hey but you did manage to involve me in that bullshit!
Responds of .Ahiranta
@Ruchi
Hurt, ego-reaction
Responds of Ruchi
@Ahiranta
Defended ego-reaction, pong-pong sweetheart :-)))
Responds of Ahiranta
@Ruchi.@all
I have played that game myself for many years. When we can not understand that which we are fighting is our self while holding on to our believes, convictions, etc we start saying back what the other is saying to get under their skin.....like children do....I see a star....I see a star....I go home....I go home....you have chosen the words ping-pong hahahaha
Obviously, by what has been said, you feel hurt, lectured, preached, and pushed down as not knowing. Your reaction shows that you did not like what I said, thinking I should not have said what I said. You have forgotten yourself. Forgotten that you came here to travel within your self; participating in the Dharma practice; to TRAVEL inside of you! The words written which disturbed you use them to TRAVEL to the source within you keep the focus on you instead of making the choice to focus on me.
While anyone writes , I keep focus on me not on you. I talk about you, I talk at you, I converse with you, but while doing that I keep focus on me. I am not the source of your disturbance that source lies in you. I am just a tool a mirror.
This is NOT an ego-polishing place. This is the place where we practice Dharma. If you need to be told your a good person, you are very beautiful person, your kind, your smart, you this ...you that... that is not going to happen, although, all those things are present in all.
This is about how you react to others. How others have control over your feelings. I upset you and you could do nothing about that except by trying to win some ground back in some way or form. Instead of keeping your eye on yourself and free yourself of the power others hold over you.
A ball in the wind that is what you become the moment the ego is unchecked. Everybody on this planet has the option to hurt you when you are in that state of mind..
@Ruchi.
Now you are going to tell me that there were no emotions stirred within you?
Responds of Ozay Rinpoche
@Ruchi.
Good morning Ruchi nice to see you here, glad you came back. (Editors note, following day)
HERE IS MY SERMON FOR YOU FROM MOUNT OF OLIVES TODAY:
You negative response on "preaching" will be my focus, I think most of your other stuff Ahiranta will address for you as you were talking mostly to Ahiranta.
Your negative response "Preaching" has little values when you consider it is only there, invented as a defence mechanism to shut down other egos.
A tactical ploy, your reaction about us preaching, is just a sentence, created to gain power and out wit, the other ego. In truth, preaching sermons is a good thing so long as the people who preach are self-aware, just like Jesus, Buddha, Osho etc some people are qualified to preach and some are not. You can rest assured I am also qualified.
@all
Those who preach truth are only listened too, by true seekers. The ones who do not accept truth because it comes from other people have ulterior motives in not accepting, I will explain what I mean.
Preaching today does cause a lot of "jealousy" amongst many people. Why is this? Everyone’s ego wishes; “to be seen as all knowing"
"IDENTIFYING"(personality ego) with what has been said as a personal attack otherwise what need is there to make negative comment, when all one has to do is delete, or not read? There is always cause to every effect.
Therefore, when a truly realised one, or an enlightened one, turns up and speaks; a jealous person will try to undermine everything the realised person speaks of. Again, the proof of ulterior motive lies in the actions because it is so easy to delete what someone else says, but rather than deleting the energy within you is driven by a need for recognition by the other (Jealousy) thereby; undermining truth; with the desire to achieve superiority; this happens in all kinds of relationships.
There is no respect for the truth, only a respect for one own ego and jealousy has become the driving force.
The demon jealousy has many masks but all are easy to see by one who is self aware, or if you learn to stand back and observe yourself in this play that is unfolding.
If you go look at some of the discussion, in this case on Facebook, while you stand back objectively "OBSERVING" what is going on, you will see that people are too afraid to speak about what is in "THEMSELVES" apart from rehearsed stuff they have read from books. They need these books as proof to themselves and others that they are not talking rubbish, they know unconsciously that all they know from mind is rubbish, while at the same time being frightened to look deep within themselves, frightened to find even more rubbish, not knowing that they would become truth, to see truth. How can you grow spiritually when it is like this with you?
ARE YOU REALLY JUST A BOOK?
There is no understanding of the "TRUE SELF” that is why such demons expressed in emotions like JEALOUSY win the day and run peoples lives until the day they die. They have not "LOOKED INTO SELF, the fear of hurting ego makes that they become stagnant.
Go, look at the discussions on the net, most of them are along the lines of ego polishing ....Oh your really nice.......That is just brilliant of you...........You are such a great person......You are so wise and wonderful etc.
If we are not polishing each other’s egos, by the way, your ego is your worse enemy; you get a situation where we are trying to break each others ego. I will tell you the better situation out of the two is the last one, better beat shit into ego than allow this cancer to grow even deeper into our being.
You fight to maintain an illusion you have been creating all of your life. It is a non-reality, why fight for that which is not real? You do, and you make it into a reality by giving yourself ill health and early death of yet another body.
It is a good thing that your mother and father enjoys sex otherwise you would be committing a great sin to put your parents through your childbirth just so you could wreck your body due to ego.
Responds of.Ruchi
@Ozay Rinpoche and Ahiranta. ////
Responds of Ozay Rinpoche
@Ruchi do you remember when you first joined us that I told you this is a Dharma practice?
@all
This is the system that we work with, this real life system that does not lie in any book, but rather the book you work from is the true book "YOURSELF"
If you are not "COURAGEOUS" enough then this, staying with us, will become difficult for you.
This Dharma practice is facing "YOURSELF" "SEEING YOURSELF" Remember one eye in, one eye out.
We are here to help ourselves, by helping others; we are here “to "TRULY" spiritually grow”
My advice if you have run out of fuel is this.
When you are in anger "BE IN ANGER FULLY" But "OBSERVE YOUR ANGER"
If you are in "JEALOUSY" "BE IN JEALOUSY FULLY" But "OBSERVE YOUR JEALOUSY"
If you are in "HATE BE IN HATE FULLY" And "OBSERVE YOUR HATE"
Now would you like to start again, as you were, but this time "KEEP ONE EYE IN AND ONE EYE OUT"
Eventually you will come to an end of all these blocks within the mind and you will feel only love in these situations.
Respond of Ruchi
@Ozay Rinpoche and Ahiranta.
(Editor note; Ruchi is here resending words spoken by Ozay)
“The energy is driven by a need for recognition over the other (Jealousy) thereby undermining truth with the desire to achieve superiority, this
happens in all kinds of relationships too.”
Ruchi continues:
Yes true, I understand this well, and its not only driven by jealousy, it
is driven by all sorts off... for example the need for denial, or repression, denial of anger, hatred, envy....greed... the need to keep a status quo - the need to keep the conditioning intact.
Responds of Ahiranta
@Ruchi: A joke for Ruchi;
The little Toyota car comes to a sudden stop. "Have you run out of petrol?" asks Ruthie Goldberg, sarcastically."
No, of course not, “replies young Fagin Finkelstein.
"Then why have we stopped?" says Rutchie."
Well," says Fagin, "you have probably noticed that we are parked in a quiet place in the forest miles from anywhere so I thought you might like a discussion about the hereafter."
"That's something new," replies Rutchie.
"What do you mean?"
"Simple," says Fagin."
If you are not here after....
what I am here after....
you will be here after I have gone."
.Responds of Ruchi
@Ahiranta
hahaha, a good example of what’s called projection.
All I did was trying out if I could reply directly from my mailbox, and typed some letters. Now the joke comes later> I am not that much into jokes, too arduous for
Me. Bye.
Responds of Ozay Rinpoche
@Ruchi
Yes that is right, I often call the conditioning; the ego, as I have in this case, but the ego is very slippery, it is always looking for new angles to retain its power.
@all
In this situation, which is another common tactic of ego, it will change the words around and quickly take ownership of the issue, thereby yet again making a sly move to become superior and dominating.
Until there is a great pain, an acceptance of being just one big arsehole of a human being, and being false, a realisation; “I am full of shit”, I hate myself; there can never be any movement forward for spiritual development and realisation of self completely.
Responds of Ahiranta
@Ruchi
hahahahahaha I see you Ruchi in all aspects. Nothing then Love Ruchi, nothing then Love.
Responds of Ozay Rinpoche
@all
Below is my book "Freedom" Escaping the prison of the mind. You can get it from Amazon; it is about my three attempts to escape from Cardiff prison, succeeding on my third attempt, in a profound way, in my own words a story of true enlightenment through meditation.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Freedom-Escaping-Prison-Mind-Rinpoche/dp/0980081726
@all
.P.S. anyone who has questions can contact me personally on this addy: abc_enlightenment@hotmail.com
Responds of Ozay Rinpoche
@Ruchi.
So, you are going again or are you just pretending to go, which ever reason at this point in the discussion it can only be another defence mechanism in operation, attack and run, what do you think?
Responds of Ahiranta
@all
There is not intentional hurt put upon you Ruchi!
Do I have an ego? YES,
Do I get emotionally stirred up? YES.
Does my ego wants to feel superior? YES YES YES, it loves to come out the winner!
But do I really win? Do I win when I intentionally hurt another human being? Does it really make me feel good?
No, it does not.
Am I all the things you accuse me off? YES I AM!
Only difference so far is that I know it, that I accept myself as I am in each situation.
Am I aware in all I do? NO!
I send you that joke to break the wall behind which you feel so safe. I do not stand on the other side of that wall, pretending that I know better, that I am better. I am standing in your shoes. I am within you, Love you, how can it be any other way.
I do not hurt you are any one else. We hurt ourselves.
I am aware that what I do say or do not say will create an emotion within the other, hurt in the so called other. If I see someone cannot take words, I will back off or give them compliments instead.
You can take it, you are ready to free yourself from the control of ego just like I am doing. There is no difference. I am all you think I am. I am you! I am the mirror mirroring us back! You are my mirror miroring us back!
Responds of Ruchi
@Ozay Rinpoche and Ahiranta.
Attack and run, you say is my defence, yours is attack and stay, hahahaha
I only went for a walk in the sun :-))))))))))))))))))))))) that does also exist you know hahahahahha
How long were you in prison in Cardiff?
Can you send an excerpt from the book.
The only difference you say is that you know it, how do you know that I don't know it. I know it to sometimes and sometimes it takes a bit.
But as you are not aware in all you do, you are also not aware always of your ego and it's cunning ways in yourself...
Both of you so far were not able to share here with me not even one ego reaction that happened during our encounter...
I am going again; of course you can now say I am on the flight.
Ahiranta can say I am only flexing my muscle with Ozay and not her. Stay stuck in your assumptions byyeeee
Responds of Ahiranta
@Ruchi
Hahahaha
Responds of Ozay Rinpoche
@Ruchi @all
When I am in ego, then it is as you say I will be ruled by my defence mechanisms, but as "I AM" at this time; I am in the truth and awareness mode, therefore that is not saying I cannot be caught out on other days as you are, it just gets less the more I practice self awareness.
@Ruchi
Hope you enjoyed your walk in the Sun :O)
I was only in prison for a short time, but in isolation for 6 months, if you type into google "Freedom" By Ozay Rinpoche you will get a free E-book copy.
@all
You may know many things intellectually, as many do, all you have to do is go look around and you will see there are so many who know, there are so many scholars of the truth, but there are few who know the "TRUE EXPERIENCE Of TRUTH"
The proof of this is the inability to master the lower nature of self in such discourses as we are now in; i.e. anger jealousy, slyness, evil intent, arrogance, pride, self importance, self centeredness lack of friendship, lack of love for one another.
What you will see is that most are "MASTERED" not the "MASTER" as their words will claim, they have no idea how to be master of the lower nature, they preach they are masters, but when put to the test they easily fall.
The truth speaks not in words but in action. Actions speak more about where you stand than your words will ever say, but only to those who have mastered that lower self.
Just keep practising this method and you will become more aware of this truth, there will be no need to believe me, rather you will know this truth.
When I am not aware of my ego, this is what happens usually:
Something makes me feel different it is not nice anymore I become uncomfortable inside, something makes me unhappy, or ill at ease, there is tension where there was relaxation and softness in my body and mind something ends my bliss, something disturbs, or even hurts emotions may arise.
Because I am used to better states of being than this, now a natural occurrence happens inside of me.
A desire arises to find an answer to end my discomfort inside, we are all pleasure seeking, and this is the outcome of many years of pleasure seeking, trial and error with one pleasure followed by another until you have come to realise the final pleasure seeking lies not outside but inside the self.
You have created much discomfort by pleasure seeking material thing, ego polishing etc, naturally, you come back to yourself and then inside yourself to answer all questions about the sufferings; you will see it was just one key you needed, so simple.
When this happens, because I am more used to a state of peace, there is a quick comparison, with now and before, when it was good.
I recognise this is not good, it is then I remember myself and steer my boat back to peacefulness with awareness of the whole process and where I went wrong, total honesty has to be used in every way not denial, but rather acceptance, letting go, understanding, that is how I become aware of my cunning ego.
The more I understand my own ego the more I understand your ego, and others egos and all its tricks, this is to be expected if I am truly realised.
As you may have already observed, it may seem that I always have the upper edge all the time in such debates when ego is in play.
This is because I know its full nature by being aware and when not able to be this; the discomfort created of blind ego will motivate and move me to take action and get right again, that is; I will kill my ego, or die to it so that truth is flowing through me.
When you react as you have done so far, we can see where your action comes from truth or ego, because we have freed ourselves by killing our own ego we have become able to see you clearly.
If you can point out where we are wrong then, the truth will out weigh our ignorance and truth cannot be denied the moment it is seen.
If you see and bring it forward it cannot be denied except for one who is blinded by ego and runs away, these are egoistical tactics.
I stand and wait for your explanation.
On the other hand, is it just another poor attempt for your ego to regain ground? Again, there is possibility we are not seeing, but it is not likely the most likely thing as can be clearly seen; you are trapped within your defence mechanisms, until what you speak of can be clearly pointed out then it lies with you to find your own inner truth, in Yourself, or in Ahiranta, or in Ozay Rinpoche.
Responds of Aashan Sajangurukkal
@all
If thorn fall on a leaf or leaf fall on a thorn....
only leaf gets hurt....
leaf is Masochist and thorn is sadist...
but some leaves desire to hurt....
Military without gun !!!!!!
Responds of Ozay Rinpoche
@all
If a leaf and thorn come together, it is normally by an unnatural occurrence, though placed on the same tree.
In the same way, when ego comes into life it will damage everything it touches if it is not mastered correctly.
Responds of Ahiranta
@all
The child walks out the door after found out lying to its parents. The child thinks; “how can they know that I am lying? I could have spoken the truth! I know I did not speak the truth but they have no way of knowing that.
They could have been wrong saying that I was lying.
They cannot know what is in my head, they cannot see in my head.”
Because you cannot see, what I have come to see you cannot understand why I can see what you cannot see. Yet, give it time and you will come to see what I can see!
A child sees the world through his understanding. When our grandson sits with us looking at the same object he will see something very different then what I see or what Ozay is seeing.
You are at this moment keeping up the wall of your mind and filters all through your mind while reading all we write. All you write shows me where you stand in your development. What you see in me is also showing your development.
You conceive this conversation as being a struggle, a fight, and a battle of wills. It is not so. You are fighting your self.
I can talk to you about the colour red until the cows come home. But until you stop and start asking questions, preferably ask your self, you will never become able to see the colour red, to experience the colour red, to become the colour red..
You say that so far we have not been able to give you any words that showed you the working of our own ego. Ozay answered that beautifully for you.
Just as we cannot hurt you we cannot give you anything either. You will have to do the work inside of you. You mentioned that you had heard what we say from another source from another enlightened one, in person. You see hearing is one thing, digesting what entered the ear or eye is another. You are still looking for an answer that is why you came here. However, the problem is that you do not like to feel as if you are “being told”. That some else knows and you do not know.
This is why so many masters demand surrender from people who make the request to do their inner work under the master’s guidance.
You came here.
You wanted to do inner work.
You agreed to the dharma system explained to you by Ozay in a private message.
The problem now is that you keep holding onto all that you think you already know. You listen while your cup (mind) filled up with previously collected ideas, believes, morals etc while Ozay and I are pouring light over and into your cup so you can see clearly all the mind concepts you hold onto. How can the light, pointers, signpost or whatever name you want to give all words spoken enter you for digestion when the moment we send you each word you quickly cover your cup with your hand?
Someone wrote yesterday “you should not feed a cow meat”. The cow would die. We are offering you grass but you perceive it as being meat.
We lead you to the water we shine a light to light your path to the water. However, you are stuck of a for you invisible lead is holding you tightly in place where you are at.
We cannot do the walking for you.
We cannot make you drink the water.
What we can do is keep shining the light, which we call truth until you lose your blindness, break the lead, making it possible for you can start following the light until you will become that light yourself.
You came here to work. WORK! Not to be polished up.
Responds of Aashan Sajangurukkal
@all
hahahahahaaaaaa.......very nice
Responds of Keep Lakshmi
@all
♥
Responds of Ruchi
@all
I need to retire for a while, thanks for your well-intentioned long replies
Responds of Aashan Sajangurukkal
@all
Himalayas never move
Responds of Aashan Sajangurukkal
@all
Rivers flow
Responds of Ruchi
@Aashan Sajangurukkal
And: turbans never removed
Responds of Ruchi
@all
I have a thousand brilliant lies for the question: how are you?
I have a thousand brilliant lies for the question: what is God?
If you think that the Truth can be known from words,
if you think that the sun and the ocean can pass
through that tiny opening called the mouth...Oh, someone should start laughing!
Someone should start wildly laughing -now!
(Editors note: as mentioned before defence mechanism by quoting from book.)
Responds of Ozay Rinpoche
@all
The truth can be experienced on varying levels rising to the ultimate truth, because the ego is a lie and creates even more lies, this friction, that dialogue, creates is the stairway to the ultimate truth, see it or not see it, it is the truth, and you cannot deny this.
The ego (mind thought words) is a means to its own end, and the tool it uses for this end is suffering, through attachment to words it identifies with.
Therefore it is a fact we use words and it is a fact through words we create suffering and this suffering brings us self knowledge: Truth.
@Ruchi
Which paperback did you quote your last responds from Ruchi?
Sunday, 30 May 2010
Saturday, 29 May 2010
I had become a pot of aspartaam.
I had become a pot of aspartaam. and by doing so I was creating cancer in self and others,
Not cancer as in physical illness called cancer but still a growth of pollution. I sweetened my words. Biggest problem by doing so I found was that I suppressed emotions within which were damaging my physical body.
Second thing by doing that aspartaam thing, I felt false, not real even more after doing so. Which in turn made even more tension with my body. I ended up in a circle I did not see how I could get out. Until Ozay puts his finger into my whirlwind which made it possible for me to see how I went about life and what other choice there was.
It is not about speaking truth as we think it is it? First we have to know truth, first we have to become truth, this is the whole point. How can we speak truth if we do not know it, have become it.
If we think we know, and start ventilating our emotions upon the other we will do harm without a doubt. What do others have to do with our emotions? We have created those emotions the other did not do that for us. Yes, they mirror our self back without knowing that they are doing that, but it is the I that created the emotion through concepts formed in mind.
Why tell the other about it?
Let me share an experience with you. Ozay works many hours on the internet. Many men and women talk to Ozay. Most of them are just looking to be stimulated in any way or form. They speak the words they have read out of books but they do not walk the walk.
I started observing within myself that I felt jealous, jealous of women talking to Ozay. Sending Ozay photos etc and the posture of body spoke many stories.
Ok am I in that situation to go over Ozay and speak the truth? Yes! if I need to yes! But lets have a closer look. If I say to Ozay, "listen Ozay I really feel jealous about you talking to all those women" Then yes that is the truth from where I stand at that moment. But it is not complete is it? Because what do I try to do by telling Ozay about my jealousy?
Is he expected by me, to stop talking to those women?
Is he expected by me, to ease my jealousy by telling me how much he loves me and that he would never do anything to hurt me?
I looked at all of this within myself. yes I told Ozay about the process I was going through after I had done my inner reasoning.
My reasoning brought me here:
Why do I feel jealous?
I feel jealous because I am afraid Ozay might leave for another woman.
Why am I afraid of Ozay leaving?
I will feel alone, I will feel hurt of being rejected, replaced.
What is it that gets hurt by rejection, etc.
My ego, my personality.
Right, well that is not what I am is it now?
No.
Where comes that fear from? fear of being alone?
Division.
Division of what?
Division of me and him. us and them. life and death.
Is there a me and him?
No.
Is there a us and them?
NO.
Is there a life and death?
NO.
etc. I keep going until I reach zero point.
I found this very difficult to do. I just had no clue how to ask question and how to see the answers.
So instead of telling the other about this or that, I do my inner reasoning, contemplation and meditation. This is a very strong cocktail without any aspartaam whatsoever.
Instead of trying to change the other around me, to put upon the other my problems, my emotions, my needs, my wants, I took responsibility. I created it all, so I can also uncreated it.
I did speak to Ozay. First I would speak to him at the moment I felt the jealousy. Ozay would then paint out to me the path to liberation.
Then I would speak afterwards to Ozay telling him all about the insights I had come to.
To start with my motivation to tell Ozay about what I had come to was to boost my ego by showing Ozay how well I did. Ozay of course saw right thru all motive for speaking to him. Again he would paint out to me the path to liberation.
Now I do no longer speak about Ozay about my inner truth. It is just there now available each moment I become aware.
No longer the need to speak about this or that emotion.
Speaking the truth can as Ozay already said only be done to those who are ready. We do not give pearls to pigs. Or you do not give meat to cows and grass to tigers. They would both die.
So before we can start speaking the truth we need to know truth.
When we speak of speaking the truth we do not speak about ventilating mind concepts, believes, ideals, morals, etc.
There is a VERY big difference!!!!
Not cancer as in physical illness called cancer but still a growth of pollution. I sweetened my words. Biggest problem by doing so I found was that I suppressed emotions within which were damaging my physical body.
Second thing by doing that aspartaam thing, I felt false, not real even more after doing so. Which in turn made even more tension with my body. I ended up in a circle I did not see how I could get out. Until Ozay puts his finger into my whirlwind which made it possible for me to see how I went about life and what other choice there was.
It is not about speaking truth as we think it is it? First we have to know truth, first we have to become truth, this is the whole point. How can we speak truth if we do not know it, have become it.
If we think we know, and start ventilating our emotions upon the other we will do harm without a doubt. What do others have to do with our emotions? We have created those emotions the other did not do that for us. Yes, they mirror our self back without knowing that they are doing that, but it is the I that created the emotion through concepts formed in mind.
Why tell the other about it?
Let me share an experience with you. Ozay works many hours on the internet. Many men and women talk to Ozay. Most of them are just looking to be stimulated in any way or form. They speak the words they have read out of books but they do not walk the walk.
I started observing within myself that I felt jealous, jealous of women talking to Ozay. Sending Ozay photos etc and the posture of body spoke many stories.
Ok am I in that situation to go over Ozay and speak the truth? Yes! if I need to yes! But lets have a closer look. If I say to Ozay, "listen Ozay I really feel jealous about you talking to all those women" Then yes that is the truth from where I stand at that moment. But it is not complete is it? Because what do I try to do by telling Ozay about my jealousy?
Is he expected by me, to stop talking to those women?
Is he expected by me, to ease my jealousy by telling me how much he loves me and that he would never do anything to hurt me?
I looked at all of this within myself. yes I told Ozay about the process I was going through after I had done my inner reasoning.
My reasoning brought me here:
Why do I feel jealous?
I feel jealous because I am afraid Ozay might leave for another woman.
Why am I afraid of Ozay leaving?
I will feel alone, I will feel hurt of being rejected, replaced.
What is it that gets hurt by rejection, etc.
My ego, my personality.
Right, well that is not what I am is it now?
No.
Where comes that fear from? fear of being alone?
Division.
Division of what?
Division of me and him. us and them. life and death.
Is there a me and him?
No.
Is there a us and them?
NO.
Is there a life and death?
NO.
etc. I keep going until I reach zero point.
I found this very difficult to do. I just had no clue how to ask question and how to see the answers.
So instead of telling the other about this or that, I do my inner reasoning, contemplation and meditation. This is a very strong cocktail without any aspartaam whatsoever.
Instead of trying to change the other around me, to put upon the other my problems, my emotions, my needs, my wants, I took responsibility. I created it all, so I can also uncreated it.
I did speak to Ozay. First I would speak to him at the moment I felt the jealousy. Ozay would then paint out to me the path to liberation.
Then I would speak afterwards to Ozay telling him all about the insights I had come to.
To start with my motivation to tell Ozay about what I had come to was to boost my ego by showing Ozay how well I did. Ozay of course saw right thru all motive for speaking to him. Again he would paint out to me the path to liberation.
Now I do no longer speak about Ozay about my inner truth. It is just there now available each moment I become aware.
No longer the need to speak about this or that emotion.
Speaking the truth can as Ozay already said only be done to those who are ready. We do not give pearls to pigs. Or you do not give meat to cows and grass to tigers. They would both die.
So before we can start speaking the truth we need to know truth.
When we speak of speaking the truth we do not speak about ventilating mind concepts, believes, ideals, morals, etc.
There is a VERY big difference!!!!
Mind wants to run, heart stays
Mind wants to run, heart stays in peace and full acceptance of created situation.
Beautiful example is a Buddhist story about a monk sitting on his mountain for a very long period of time. He has no contact with other human beings and food is left for him on a certain place for him to collect when hungry.
One day he decides to go back down the mountain into the village. He has become so peaceful, or silent, through his spiritual practice high up that mountain away from all influences. Entering the village he sees that there is a market and he decides to have a look. Within 5 minutes he finds himself screaming to someone who walked into him hurting his feed. All peace he felt on top of the mountain was lost, all silence had evaporated within a split second. No mastering of self had taken place, no realization of self had taken place.
We have to practice, expose our self to all sorts of stimulus to test, to practice, to observe, to do active meditation.
We have to retract into solitude as well, to absorb, to ponder, contemplate, meditate and travel within to our inner silence.
When we can reach our inner silence while on the market place we have come a long way.
Beautiful example is a Buddhist story about a monk sitting on his mountain for a very long period of time. He has no contact with other human beings and food is left for him on a certain place for him to collect when hungry.
One day he decides to go back down the mountain into the village. He has become so peaceful, or silent, through his spiritual practice high up that mountain away from all influences. Entering the village he sees that there is a market and he decides to have a look. Within 5 minutes he finds himself screaming to someone who walked into him hurting his feed. All peace he felt on top of the mountain was lost, all silence had evaporated within a split second. No mastering of self had taken place, no realization of self had taken place.
We have to practice, expose our self to all sorts of stimulus to test, to practice, to observe, to do active meditation.
We have to retract into solitude as well, to absorb, to ponder, contemplate, meditate and travel within to our inner silence.
When we can reach our inner silence while on the market place we have come a long way.
Listening or talking
We mostly listen.
Most people only talk to be heard, not to listen to what someone else has to say. The people I took as an example in one of my earlier writtings are happy while, especially the female, can talk.
They do not really need you to say anything. The male do asks some questions so now and then but most of the time is interrupted by his wife. They are together for almost 40 years and have developed a routine, so he just leans back and listens as well.
When surrounded by people who need to talk we do not say much, we do not preache, we do not try to change them, we just accept them as they are, and keep focus on self increasing awareness, which creates love instead of judgement for the so called others.
Most people only talk to be heard, not to listen to what someone else has to say. The people I took as an example in one of my earlier writtings are happy while, especially the female, can talk.
They do not really need you to say anything. The male do asks some questions so now and then but most of the time is interrupted by his wife. They are together for almost 40 years and have developed a routine, so he just leans back and listens as well.
When surrounded by people who need to talk we do not say much, we do not preache, we do not try to change them, we just accept them as they are, and keep focus on self increasing awareness, which creates love instead of judgement for the so called others.
By Ozay Rinpoche
Ozay Rinpoche When we apply our lives for other peoples ego, (Mind, personality, Identity) and make room for their variation so that we do not upset them our lives become like walking on a tightrope, or like living in a prison because of lack of freedom of expression, the expression of our soul can only happen when it is in truth, that soul expression is love.
For many they have been in this prison for so long they have become institutionalised and do not even know the prison they live in, for most do not know there is a better world than this, and this world is your liberation.
The ego makes it like the tight rope when in company of others: don't say this or they will get upset don't say that or they will think this of me, don't hurt their feelings etc etc,
We become prisoners of ego, not as free as we should be, not only this we breed even more evil in the world, by conforming to this behaviour as everyone today has.
People need correction as-well as children, the criminals are not the only ones who are locked behind prison bars and walls, they are in our homes in our families, they are our sweet grandparents, our parents, our brothers, sisters and friends.
Only people who are ready to make the effort, those who have suffered enough and wish to find an answer, and end to this suffering and end to being the ball in the wind.
If you do this with people who are not ready you can cause them irreparable damage, you have chosen to do this consciously they are still living in ignorance, therefore they are always in danger of more suffering than you and also cancers heart disease stroke etc.
That is why this must only be Dharma practice, the ego is the cause of all kinds of disharmony, both inside the person biologically and outside into the world, lust for power, self importance, recognition, greed, arrogance, pride and WAR.
Without ego we would not live such short lives and many of the illnesses associated with death will cease to be, they are there as a direct result of the unnatural tendency of mind, ego, personality, identity, identifying to create the untruths we are living with, this imbalance of ego causes anger hate resentments jealousies hurt feelings all kinds of unnatural phenomena for the animal that calls himself the highest amongst gods creation can also reach the lowest because of the law of polarity, right now man is the lowest animal because of ego.
Yet ego is the cause of its own demise, anything that is unnatural as the ego is: so shall the universal law put back into balance that which is incorrect, that is why everyone eventually takes on suffering until enlightenment is reached, this Dharma is just a fast forward for your evolution.
Who is brave enough, who is courageous enough, only warrior class may attend.
For many they have been in this prison for so long they have become institutionalised and do not even know the prison they live in, for most do not know there is a better world than this, and this world is your liberation.
The ego makes it like the tight rope when in company of others: don't say this or they will get upset don't say that or they will think this of me, don't hurt their feelings etc etc,
We become prisoners of ego, not as free as we should be, not only this we breed even more evil in the world, by conforming to this behaviour as everyone today has.
People need correction as-well as children, the criminals are not the only ones who are locked behind prison bars and walls, they are in our homes in our families, they are our sweet grandparents, our parents, our brothers, sisters and friends.
Only people who are ready to make the effort, those who have suffered enough and wish to find an answer, and end to this suffering and end to being the ball in the wind.
If you do this with people who are not ready you can cause them irreparable damage, you have chosen to do this consciously they are still living in ignorance, therefore they are always in danger of more suffering than you and also cancers heart disease stroke etc.
That is why this must only be Dharma practice, the ego is the cause of all kinds of disharmony, both inside the person biologically and outside into the world, lust for power, self importance, recognition, greed, arrogance, pride and WAR.
Without ego we would not live such short lives and many of the illnesses associated with death will cease to be, they are there as a direct result of the unnatural tendency of mind, ego, personality, identity, identifying to create the untruths we are living with, this imbalance of ego causes anger hate resentments jealousies hurt feelings all kinds of unnatural phenomena for the animal that calls himself the highest amongst gods creation can also reach the lowest because of the law of polarity, right now man is the lowest animal because of ego.
Yet ego is the cause of its own demise, anything that is unnatural as the ego is: so shall the universal law put back into balance that which is incorrect, that is why everyone eventually takes on suffering until enlightenment is reached, this Dharma is just a fast forward for your evolution.
Who is brave enough, who is courageous enough, only warrior class may attend.
Being Lonely in this world
If it is a lonely world for you that means that you still see them and you as separate! When you come to see from your inner wisdom you are surrounded by many loving souls, you see through the outside packaging and connect within without them consciously knowing this.
My whole point is, that most people think they speak the truth but they don't. They ventilate judgements, opinions, believes, ideas, moralistic rules etc.
No ego likes to be told. NO EGO LIKES TO BE TOLD!
Including my own.
Becoming is the way that is the less threatning to ego's. Becoming meaning BEING. Dangerous here the uses of words because if I would say: BE THE EXAMPLE! that would make the ego feel superiour which we not want to do.
What helped me tremendously is LISTENING MEDITATION. That has truly increased my awareness in many fold. And what is inner will influence what is outer. And as Annette said energy surrounding a solid physical form wtih influence this solid physical form from all directions. But when we are able to be fluid, all energy just flows into each other without any ownership, while our consciousness, total awareness just observes.
Before I started my inner work with guidance of Ozay I was just like you Ruchi. I felt an outsider, I felt I didn't fit in anywere, I was an alien without knowing why? I thought for decades that there was something wrong with me. Others seemed to be fitting in just fine. I mostly felt a duck in a swans nest.
That has changed. I went from duck in a swanns nest, to feeling a swann in a duck's nest, which is just as bad...hhahahaha only to arrive at this moment in which I have become all I see around me, meaning that I fit in into any given situation. Meaning no longer lonely at all.
This I wish for every one, this is the reason why I take the effort to use the computer and share words in the hope that those who are searching as I did will hear, recognize, and start walking inward just like I did before them.
Love!
My whole point is, that most people think they speak the truth but they don't. They ventilate judgements, opinions, believes, ideas, moralistic rules etc.
No ego likes to be told. NO EGO LIKES TO BE TOLD!
Including my own.
Becoming is the way that is the less threatning to ego's. Becoming meaning BEING. Dangerous here the uses of words because if I would say: BE THE EXAMPLE! that would make the ego feel superiour which we not want to do.
What helped me tremendously is LISTENING MEDITATION. That has truly increased my awareness in many fold. And what is inner will influence what is outer. And as Annette said energy surrounding a solid physical form wtih influence this solid physical form from all directions. But when we are able to be fluid, all energy just flows into each other without any ownership, while our consciousness, total awareness just observes.
Before I started my inner work with guidance of Ozay I was just like you Ruchi. I felt an outsider, I felt I didn't fit in anywere, I was an alien without knowing why? I thought for decades that there was something wrong with me. Others seemed to be fitting in just fine. I mostly felt a duck in a swans nest.
That has changed. I went from duck in a swanns nest, to feeling a swann in a duck's nest, which is just as bad...hhahahaha only to arrive at this moment in which I have become all I see around me, meaning that I fit in into any given situation. Meaning no longer lonely at all.
This I wish for every one, this is the reason why I take the effort to use the computer and share words in the hope that those who are searching as I did will hear, recognize, and start walking inward just like I did before them.
Love!
Friday, 28 May 2010
Guru
Light and dark.
Still everything that teaches us a valuable lesson, gives us insight into our self is a teacher, it is a spiritual lesson, giving insight in self, ego, heart, love, etc all can be called guru,
The people who have brought me to experience the deepest suffering within this life are also my biggest gurus. They have shown me something, which has now enriched my life. I am eternally grateful to all who were part of me experience suffering because without that experience how could I have come to know Bliss?
It showed me light and dark. Saying that not very body can be a guru depends on how you boarder off, limit the meaning of the word guru.
In some cultures a guru needs to have achieved something, preferably enlightenment, while in some cultures belonging to a sect or cast entitle someone to a title Guru, teacher, leader etc.
In every day life in the western culture in which I grew up, in the way I experience things, all around me is a reflection of self, of all, by that all shows me valuable lessons, and by that all functions as Guru.
Depending on someone's state of mind, there is a guru for everyone, at every given moment in time.
There are people like my husband Ozay walking this earth. They know from own experience what enlightenment is, and when listened too in complete surrender they will shine their light and shorten the path towards total liberation of suffering. Still there will be people who will say that in their eyes Ozay is not a guru, because they have a mind concept about what they THINK a guru is.
This is bullock, nonsense. All that makes us gain insight in self, in ego, makes us become more aware, wakes us up from the sleep, brings us light, is a Guru in its own rights.
Still everything that teaches us a valuable lesson, gives us insight into our self is a teacher, it is a spiritual lesson, giving insight in self, ego, heart, love, etc all can be called guru,
The people who have brought me to experience the deepest suffering within this life are also my biggest gurus. They have shown me something, which has now enriched my life. I am eternally grateful to all who were part of me experience suffering because without that experience how could I have come to know Bliss?
It showed me light and dark. Saying that not very body can be a guru depends on how you boarder off, limit the meaning of the word guru.
In some cultures a guru needs to have achieved something, preferably enlightenment, while in some cultures belonging to a sect or cast entitle someone to a title Guru, teacher, leader etc.
In every day life in the western culture in which I grew up, in the way I experience things, all around me is a reflection of self, of all, by that all shows me valuable lessons, and by that all functions as Guru.
Depending on someone's state of mind, there is a guru for everyone, at every given moment in time.
There are people like my husband Ozay walking this earth. They know from own experience what enlightenment is, and when listened too in complete surrender they will shine their light and shorten the path towards total liberation of suffering. Still there will be people who will say that in their eyes Ozay is not a guru, because they have a mind concept about what they THINK a guru is.
This is bullock, nonsense. All that makes us gain insight in self, in ego, makes us become more aware, wakes us up from the sleep, brings us light, is a Guru in its own rights.
Becoming the seer
I found myself no longer doing things I considered bad only to find that I replaced them with other things. I stopped judging people only to find out that instead of speaking out loud I was thinking about people I felt negative towards, which is even a bigger crime then being straight forward.
I did not like myself and because of that I tried hard to be nice to others in the hope that they would like me instead and would not see how mixed up I really was in my head and feelings. Now I have learned or better say come to see that ALL is ok.
I am ok as I am in any given moment. Knowing this has opened my heart. I was finally able to fully accept myself. No longer judging myself.
I had become a seer and this seeing brought understanding and the understanding brought acceptance and the acceptance brought letting go. The letting go brought relaxation and this relaxation brought a silencing of the uncontrolled mind.
This silence brought that I became the heart, LOVE.
This all could take place because of the tender live and care of my husband Ozay. He created an environment on which I could explore myself. get to know myself, meet myself to finally come to becoming LOVE.
I can be as selfish as any other human being. I am never one thing. I am all things I am capable of all sins and crime. I am as high as the highest and as low as the lowest within duality of mind. Only apparent difference is that I have moments of awareness.
That awareness is what I truly are.
The rest is just an earthly play in which I get lost many a times.
Me, me, and me when I am lost in mind.
One, the moment I become aware.
I did not like myself and because of that I tried hard to be nice to others in the hope that they would like me instead and would not see how mixed up I really was in my head and feelings. Now I have learned or better say come to see that ALL is ok.
I am ok as I am in any given moment. Knowing this has opened my heart. I was finally able to fully accept myself. No longer judging myself.
I had become a seer and this seeing brought understanding and the understanding brought acceptance and the acceptance brought letting go. The letting go brought relaxation and this relaxation brought a silencing of the uncontrolled mind.
This silence brought that I became the heart, LOVE.
This all could take place because of the tender live and care of my husband Ozay. He created an environment on which I could explore myself. get to know myself, meet myself to finally come to becoming LOVE.
I can be as selfish as any other human being. I am never one thing. I am all things I am capable of all sins and crime. I am as high as the highest and as low as the lowest within duality of mind. Only apparent difference is that I have moments of awareness.
That awareness is what I truly are.
The rest is just an earthly play in which I get lost many a times.
Me, me, and me when I am lost in mind.
One, the moment I become aware.
Giving
A to me interesting story of someone telling me about their free "giving".
A woman came into our house. She offered to help me because I was seriously ill. While being in our house, she told us about her spiritual work.
She was part of a spiritual church and twice a week they would practice spiritual healing on people who wanted it. She said" I do not need to get anything in return for what I am doing, I am doing it for free, it is my gift"...
Sounds great, does it not?...she will be seen by many as a very good, giving person. Only to say something totally contradictory in the next breath without knowing it herself.
She said: "But do you know what, you help people and they can not even say THANK YOU!"
The need for a thank you, is payment. No giving took place here for free. The ego comes in many very slippery disguises. Payment comes in many forms.
Me, as a personality, like creating videos and slideshows. Just like anybody else I started doing this to become good at something so that I would get admiration. Now I do this as a spiritual practice to become detached from any kind of reward.
Every time I expect someone to give me credit, I am a slave to the other.
Every time I expect people to compliment me on what is created I am a slave to the other.
Every time I get happy because someone tells me how much they like what I have made, I am open for a left hook when someone says something like, "it is crap!"
Every time I keep looking for approval about what I have made I am a slave to the outside influences.
Every time I make something and look forward to being complimented I have not given anything to the other. I am taking from the other because I expect the other to give me something in return.
Every time I expect something from someone else I am a ball in the wind.
Every time I expect compliments, attention, I TAKE from the other!!!!!! There was never a GIVING!!!!!
A woman came into our house. She offered to help me because I was seriously ill. While being in our house, she told us about her spiritual work.
She was part of a spiritual church and twice a week they would practice spiritual healing on people who wanted it. She said" I do not need to get anything in return for what I am doing, I am doing it for free, it is my gift"...
Sounds great, does it not?...she will be seen by many as a very good, giving person. Only to say something totally contradictory in the next breath without knowing it herself.
She said: "But do you know what, you help people and they can not even say THANK YOU!"
The need for a thank you, is payment. No giving took place here for free. The ego comes in many very slippery disguises. Payment comes in many forms.
Me, as a personality, like creating videos and slideshows. Just like anybody else I started doing this to become good at something so that I would get admiration. Now I do this as a spiritual practice to become detached from any kind of reward.
Every time I expect someone to give me credit, I am a slave to the other.
Every time I expect people to compliment me on what is created I am a slave to the other.
Every time I get happy because someone tells me how much they like what I have made, I am open for a left hook when someone says something like, "it is crap!"
Every time I keep looking for approval about what I have made I am a slave to the outside influences.
Every time I make something and look forward to being complimented I have not given anything to the other. I am taking from the other because I expect the other to give me something in return.
Every time I expect something from someone else I am a ball in the wind.
Every time I expect compliments, attention, I TAKE from the other!!!!!! There was never a GIVING!!!!!
Division
Division is creation by taking Pride!
Division is created because people taking pride in something, believe in something, wants something, being this something being that something, as a measurement. I am proud to be this, I am that.......I am Dutch, I am European, I am upper class, I am a doctor, I am a teacher and I am "proud" of being that.
DIVISION created shown by labels as pride, desire, likes dislikes.
Not helpful to minds who cannot see beyond yet.
Not helpful to those who have not realized self yet.
Creation of groups like Proud to be this or that will keep boundaries up, division into young minds etc.
We work towards realization of the fact that we are all the same, Oneness. Pride in being any one thing is one of many hurdles on the spiritual path.
Division is created because people taking pride in something, believe in something, wants something, being this something being that something, as a measurement. I am proud to be this, I am that.......I am Dutch, I am European, I am upper class, I am a doctor, I am a teacher and I am "proud" of being that.
DIVISION created shown by labels as pride, desire, likes dislikes.
Not helpful to minds who cannot see beyond yet.
Not helpful to those who have not realized self yet.
Creation of groups like Proud to be this or that will keep boundaries up, division into young minds etc.
We work towards realization of the fact that we are all the same, Oneness. Pride in being any one thing is one of many hurdles on the spiritual path.
Conversation between husband and wife
Everything of mind has its dual accomplice, it is mostly only babies who laugh from the belly centre always.
Most adults do occasionally, and some not at all, for them all is false laughter though they may never be aware of the difference or slightly aware, so many colours of the rainbow to choose from.
Some laughter can have malicious intent, and there is laughter of a saint or baby
No matter what the intent of the other, we have choice what we do with the intent within ourselves. Do we take it into your system and let others control us, or do we become masters over self and see, understand, recognize all of which it comes. It is our choice in each moment in each situation, this makes that it is never someone else its fault then our own if we want to speak of fault, blame blablabla....
We can still re-act to the laughter but now in full awareness functioning as a mirror reflect back what the other tried to send out.
If laughter implies a threat that means there is something to lose, how much do we bargain for in this, how far do we walk the road of a saint before we say that is what I want to keep, and that is what I will let go of?
If we are not willing to let everything go, then just one thing will have the power to control us, how many are ready for this?
Considering the amount of enlightened beings walking this earth as far as i have come across them: 000 000 000 001% of the human population to be precise, including myself. I am attached to being with you. This will prevent me from becoming enlightened. I have realized the nature of mind but did not reach enlightenment where you speak of.
Then we are doomed to be controlled by that environment all the time we cannot detach completely.
Yes we will have trouble staying fully aware and experience moments of being identified strongly with our identity and all that comes with that. lost in hell while we can live in heaven. Our fear keeps us in hell because we are addicted to our fear of dying help!!!!!!
And likewise I cannot be enlightened when I am attached.
Yes what goes for a part goes for the whole.
It is my ego that loves you being attached to me.. It is my so called higher self that wishes you freedom. While in identity i am very selfish and wash myself in your attention because it helps me to stay in the illusion of being alive. I as an identity do not dare to let go of my role as your wife. When aware I am free of all but only for small moment am I able to resist the pull of the ego. I am addicted and think like an addict : one day I will leave the ego I will become able to stay in enlightened state. Always tomorrow one day, always an excuse not to push for the ultimate. I am an addict even saying that is a justification why I make myself believe I am not going for the enlightened state. Help!!!!!
I do not know much except that I do not know anything when I am identified with mind.
One must be courageous.
You know as much as me then, and that is we are both going to leave these bodies behind and all that the body has become attached to, we know this and that dictates what must be done, yet we rather go on hearing our lies than accepting the truth, until we are strong then we can indulge in our addiction for each other by drinking the wine, and when the soul and spirit is ready to leave these bodies, therefore let us stay blind for now and hope we have the answer in the in final time.
I am not sure I feel comfortable with hoping for the best when my final moment comes within this body. Am I lying to myself? Am I fooling myself? I must be! Also I can not truly know all I spoke of above from true experience because if I did how can I still choose to stay under control of the guard of the mind, the ego? It can not be anything else then that which I spoke of is pure knowledge! If I truly knew from experience I would be in Enlightenment right now! Is it not my dearest Ozay? I spoke this morning to Aashan about the difference in knowing and knowledge. If I truly knew my addiction I would no longer be addicted, is it not?
When the final time comes you will recognise everything and it will not be so difficult, it is only when you struggle with so called death is when it is difficult that will be the measure of your attachments up to the measure of you difficulty.
I do not think you lie to yourself subconsciously, deep down you have the answer and you "KNOW", for now... See more stimulation will keep you occupied until that day of transition comes.
If enlightenment comes life can no longer be the play that has kept you buffered from the truth, but deep down you know and you are just willing to play out the scene you are here to play out, without your play how could you have blessed so many lives as you now have including mine, we are here to do something in the great epic play.
Yes thank you my husband, that make total sense, thank you for reminding me.
When you mention I will only struggle with so-called death when that time has come depending on my attachment to this play, is it not that fear of death that keeps me in illusion called life, in this play, in this illusion of being real as an identity? and that I take your wise words, that I know deep down, as an excuse to keep doing what I am doing at this moment which is satisfying myself in my daily doings, like editing videos making photos, writing spiritual texts, portraying my love onto you, etc.
I am just the same reflection in the mirror that you see in yourself so it is with me.
Most adults do occasionally, and some not at all, for them all is false laughter though they may never be aware of the difference or slightly aware, so many colours of the rainbow to choose from.
Some laughter can have malicious intent, and there is laughter of a saint or baby
No matter what the intent of the other, we have choice what we do with the intent within ourselves. Do we take it into your system and let others control us, or do we become masters over self and see, understand, recognize all of which it comes. It is our choice in each moment in each situation, this makes that it is never someone else its fault then our own if we want to speak of fault, blame blablabla....
We can still re-act to the laughter but now in full awareness functioning as a mirror reflect back what the other tried to send out.
If laughter implies a threat that means there is something to lose, how much do we bargain for in this, how far do we walk the road of a saint before we say that is what I want to keep, and that is what I will let go of?
If we are not willing to let everything go, then just one thing will have the power to control us, how many are ready for this?
Considering the amount of enlightened beings walking this earth as far as i have come across them: 000 000 000 001% of the human population to be precise, including myself. I am attached to being with you. This will prevent me from becoming enlightened. I have realized the nature of mind but did not reach enlightenment where you speak of.
Then we are doomed to be controlled by that environment all the time we cannot detach completely.
Yes we will have trouble staying fully aware and experience moments of being identified strongly with our identity and all that comes with that. lost in hell while we can live in heaven. Our fear keeps us in hell because we are addicted to our fear of dying help!!!!!!
And likewise I cannot be enlightened when I am attached.
Yes what goes for a part goes for the whole.
It is my ego that loves you being attached to me.. It is my so called higher self that wishes you freedom. While in identity i am very selfish and wash myself in your attention because it helps me to stay in the illusion of being alive. I as an identity do not dare to let go of my role as your wife. When aware I am free of all but only for small moment am I able to resist the pull of the ego. I am addicted and think like an addict : one day I will leave the ego I will become able to stay in enlightened state. Always tomorrow one day, always an excuse not to push for the ultimate. I am an addict even saying that is a justification why I make myself believe I am not going for the enlightened state. Help!!!!!
I do not know much except that I do not know anything when I am identified with mind.
One must be courageous.
You know as much as me then, and that is we are both going to leave these bodies behind and all that the body has become attached to, we know this and that dictates what must be done, yet we rather go on hearing our lies than accepting the truth, until we are strong then we can indulge in our addiction for each other by drinking the wine, and when the soul and spirit is ready to leave these bodies, therefore let us stay blind for now and hope we have the answer in the in final time.
I am not sure I feel comfortable with hoping for the best when my final moment comes within this body. Am I lying to myself? Am I fooling myself? I must be! Also I can not truly know all I spoke of above from true experience because if I did how can I still choose to stay under control of the guard of the mind, the ego? It can not be anything else then that which I spoke of is pure knowledge! If I truly knew from experience I would be in Enlightenment right now! Is it not my dearest Ozay? I spoke this morning to Aashan about the difference in knowing and knowledge. If I truly knew my addiction I would no longer be addicted, is it not?
When the final time comes you will recognise everything and it will not be so difficult, it is only when you struggle with so called death is when it is difficult that will be the measure of your attachments up to the measure of you difficulty.
I do not think you lie to yourself subconsciously, deep down you have the answer and you "KNOW", for now... See more stimulation will keep you occupied until that day of transition comes.
If enlightenment comes life can no longer be the play that has kept you buffered from the truth, but deep down you know and you are just willing to play out the scene you are here to play out, without your play how could you have blessed so many lives as you now have including mine, we are here to do something in the great epic play.
Yes thank you my husband, that make total sense, thank you for reminding me.
When you mention I will only struggle with so-called death when that time has come depending on my attachment to this play, is it not that fear of death that keeps me in illusion called life, in this play, in this illusion of being real as an identity? and that I take your wise words, that I know deep down, as an excuse to keep doing what I am doing at this moment which is satisfying myself in my daily doings, like editing videos making photos, writing spiritual texts, portraying my love onto you, etc.
I am just the same reflection in the mirror that you see in yourself so it is with me.
We can lead the cow to the water, we can not make it drink it.
We can put anyone in a candy shop surround them with all the candy in the world but we cannot make them eat something we know is better for them. Until they are ready, they will choose something based on their likes and dislikes. There is a saying in the English language: You can lead the cow to water but you can not make it drink it! They are like clay and people who have become able to know truth out of own experience are the clay potters. We keep touching the clay, squeezing it, adding water to it, until it reaches the right consistency making it possible for the truth to become visible. It can take its form as it was always mend to do.
When I met Ozay for the first time in physical form I drowned in his eyes and I KNEW that I had come home. A complete surrender took place on its own accord. I had reached the state in which surrender became a natural happening where as many people try to surrender from a mind concept because they have heard or read about how you need to surrender forgetting that it means you need to reach the state in which surrender happens as a result of previous experiences, experiences which have brought insight, understanding, acceptance which naturally leads into letting go,.....surrender.
When Ozay started telling me his stories about his experience in prison, his realization ending in Enlightenment I mostly did not UNDERSTOOD what he said. I heard what Ozay said but I only heard it intellectually. At the same time I felt something inside myself, something inside myself reacted to each word, as drinking nectar, feeding the open wounds, healing the suffering within my mind, feeling center and physical body. I just listened, listened, and listened. Then when Ozay would stop talking I would ponder his words, asking myself questions like: how does what Ozay said apply to me? to my life? how can I relate to the essence in what Ozay speaks of? How does it relate to me?
You see Ozay was not and is still not in the business of selling any truth. I am not in the business of selling any truth. I share my experience telling my story in my own words which are never complete but can be a light to those who are ready to surrender. That light will shine on each one of them until they become ready to drink the water on their own accord in their own time. Just like it happened to me.
I will keep leading cows to the water but leave them free in choice to when they will start drinking the water.
I will keep leading children to the candy store but leave them free in choice to how much and when they will start choosing the nectar instead of the candy on display.
I will keep slaughtering my ego each time it tries to take over.
I will keep offering friendship to all I come across until they become able to see that the friendship has always and will always be there. It can not be any different. Friendship is nothing else to me then Love of which we are all made so how can that be offered in my reality. It is already and will always be everywhere.
Eternally grateful I am, and always will be for all the time Ozay has chosen to live through his ego to guide me while shining his light into my darkness.
Question is "how can we offer it in any other way then free?" when we give it is always replaced there is no other way, if we give something from here the space made in that here will be filled in from there. Here and there are one.
Like when you take a handful of air the vacuum created by that movement will make that surrounding air will fill in where the air in your hand first was. Just as the air that was in your hand had to be taken before it could be replace by the air we took.
Same in when we take. When we take something else is lost. Their is a natural flow of all. If we take something we already had will have to make place.
When people only give importance to something that will cost something they are still in the devils control, in the uncontrolled mind. When something given for free so seen as not valuable the mind still measures by earthy means.
All we truly need is available for free. All other is not needed, it is just filling in space, which was already filled with itself.
If we have to dress up in a certain way to become able to enter someone who stands before us, then by all means let the one with the need for the dressing up pay for this dressing up.
As long as the one who dresses up does not dresses up to gain something for self, the exchange is done in correct conduct, beneficial.
If people from Europe or America or Russia look for a guru coming from India because in their minds only there the truth can be found, by all means let them do their search.
They only try to create a situation in which they can experience their fantasy, their believes which will make that they become ready to hopefully reach one day that point in which they can see that what they were looking for could have found inside themselves without ever leaving their home.
But people need to experience all before they can see the truth, become the truth.
How can we come to know that all we need comes for free unless we first have payed dearly for all we thought we needed to come to see that it never brought anything of value.
How can we become able to see that nothing can be added to that which we are unless we keep trying to add something to ourselves with no result.
we can only give, we can not do the peeling for someone else. I had to do my own peeling. Ozay showed me how to use the peeling knife but I had to do the work, I had to take the knife and starting to peel away all the layers underneath I was hiding. I was needy, I needed much. My giving was only based on the expectation of getting more in return.
And our giving is only real, without any expectation, when we have peeled our own ego layer by layer, and put back on this ego after we have come to experience what we are, as Aashan so beautifully said, dress ourselves with this ego, to function within this earthly existence as Ozay always so beautifully says to function as a light to all those still in darkness because of the layers blocking out the light.
question: how can time be valuable?
Does that not mean that we give importance to this and not to that?
Is time not a mind concept? and by that not a reality?
If we find time valuable do we not make that when we give some people time and others not because of expectation of what will be the result based on judgement? and give this importance above just being where we are when we are?
I see many times people mention as not having time for this or that, while spending a lot of time elsewhere where they chase and find ego rubbing pleasures.
I see many times people mention as not having time, having to go at a moment when their ideas, concepts, believes and ego are coming under, as they call it attack.
I know we all have responsibilities within earthly life, like family, providing food to those we can not provide for themselves yet because of age, or ill health. But outside of taking care of those who can not take care of themselves, does it really matter with whom and where we spend our time when it is done in full awareness, done in totally being present? Are they not a part of all, are we not one, only they do not know that as an experience yet?
When I met Ozay for the first time in physical form I drowned in his eyes and I KNEW that I had come home. A complete surrender took place on its own accord. I had reached the state in which surrender became a natural happening where as many people try to surrender from a mind concept because they have heard or read about how you need to surrender forgetting that it means you need to reach the state in which surrender happens as a result of previous experiences, experiences which have brought insight, understanding, acceptance which naturally leads into letting go,.....surrender.
When Ozay started telling me his stories about his experience in prison, his realization ending in Enlightenment I mostly did not UNDERSTOOD what he said. I heard what Ozay said but I only heard it intellectually. At the same time I felt something inside myself, something inside myself reacted to each word, as drinking nectar, feeding the open wounds, healing the suffering within my mind, feeling center and physical body. I just listened, listened, and listened. Then when Ozay would stop talking I would ponder his words, asking myself questions like: how does what Ozay said apply to me? to my life? how can I relate to the essence in what Ozay speaks of? How does it relate to me?
You see Ozay was not and is still not in the business of selling any truth. I am not in the business of selling any truth. I share my experience telling my story in my own words which are never complete but can be a light to those who are ready to surrender. That light will shine on each one of them until they become ready to drink the water on their own accord in their own time. Just like it happened to me.
I will keep leading cows to the water but leave them free in choice to when they will start drinking the water.
I will keep leading children to the candy store but leave them free in choice to how much and when they will start choosing the nectar instead of the candy on display.
I will keep slaughtering my ego each time it tries to take over.
I will keep offering friendship to all I come across until they become able to see that the friendship has always and will always be there. It can not be any different. Friendship is nothing else to me then Love of which we are all made so how can that be offered in my reality. It is already and will always be everywhere.
Eternally grateful I am, and always will be for all the time Ozay has chosen to live through his ego to guide me while shining his light into my darkness.
Question is "how can we offer it in any other way then free?" when we give it is always replaced there is no other way, if we give something from here the space made in that here will be filled in from there. Here and there are one.
Like when you take a handful of air the vacuum created by that movement will make that surrounding air will fill in where the air in your hand first was. Just as the air that was in your hand had to be taken before it could be replace by the air we took.
Same in when we take. When we take something else is lost. Their is a natural flow of all. If we take something we already had will have to make place.
When people only give importance to something that will cost something they are still in the devils control, in the uncontrolled mind. When something given for free so seen as not valuable the mind still measures by earthy means.
All we truly need is available for free. All other is not needed, it is just filling in space, which was already filled with itself.
If we have to dress up in a certain way to become able to enter someone who stands before us, then by all means let the one with the need for the dressing up pay for this dressing up.
As long as the one who dresses up does not dresses up to gain something for self, the exchange is done in correct conduct, beneficial.
If people from Europe or America or Russia look for a guru coming from India because in their minds only there the truth can be found, by all means let them do their search.
They only try to create a situation in which they can experience their fantasy, their believes which will make that they become ready to hopefully reach one day that point in which they can see that what they were looking for could have found inside themselves without ever leaving their home.
But people need to experience all before they can see the truth, become the truth.
How can we come to know that all we need comes for free unless we first have payed dearly for all we thought we needed to come to see that it never brought anything of value.
How can we become able to see that nothing can be added to that which we are unless we keep trying to add something to ourselves with no result.
we can only give, we can not do the peeling for someone else. I had to do my own peeling. Ozay showed me how to use the peeling knife but I had to do the work, I had to take the knife and starting to peel away all the layers underneath I was hiding. I was needy, I needed much. My giving was only based on the expectation of getting more in return.
And our giving is only real, without any expectation, when we have peeled our own ego layer by layer, and put back on this ego after we have come to experience what we are, as Aashan so beautifully said, dress ourselves with this ego, to function within this earthly existence as Ozay always so beautifully says to function as a light to all those still in darkness because of the layers blocking out the light.
question: how can time be valuable?
Does that not mean that we give importance to this and not to that?
Is time not a mind concept? and by that not a reality?
If we find time valuable do we not make that when we give some people time and others not because of expectation of what will be the result based on judgement? and give this importance above just being where we are when we are?
I see many times people mention as not having time for this or that, while spending a lot of time elsewhere where they chase and find ego rubbing pleasures.
I see many times people mention as not having time, having to go at a moment when their ideas, concepts, believes and ego are coming under, as they call it attack.
I know we all have responsibilities within earthly life, like family, providing food to those we can not provide for themselves yet because of age, or ill health. But outside of taking care of those who can not take care of themselves, does it really matter with whom and where we spend our time when it is done in full awareness, done in totally being present? Are they not a part of all, are we not one, only they do not know that as an experience yet?
Master of Self
If someone made you happy then yes someone can make you sad. This will make you a slave, a slave in other peoples hands. This is how most people live their life. that is how I lived my life from a very young age. Now I have come to know that there is a higher level of living.
No longer a ball in the wind, but you strong centred in yourself!
No matter what happens around you, you will feel peace!
This is what I wish for you.!!!!
You are the creator of each moment!
It is by your choice that you feel sad!
It is by your choice that you feel happy!
Why not make the conscious choice to step out of that rollercoaster?
Become the Master of Self, the master of your life!
No longer a ball in the wind, but you strong centred in yourself!
No matter what happens around you, you will feel peace!
This is what I wish for you.!!!!
You are the creator of each moment!
It is by your choice that you feel sad!
It is by your choice that you feel happy!
Why not make the conscious choice to step out of that rollercoaster?
Become the Master of Self, the master of your life!
Spiritual Path
No need to feel sorry for any one. Every one is on their spiritual or evolutionary path by the choices they have made so far.
People who use words to communicate something to use are their for a reason. when they create a feeling of hurt inside of use they are doing us a service! This does not mean that people are allowed to be intentionally cruel to another being, but even if they are making that choice Karma, cause and effect will sooner or later balance this out.
So I am grateful to each person who shows me that they can push my buttons as I call it. If I get upset by something someone else says or does, I give away my power, my sanity, my peace. I give them control over my mind because I will keep thinking about what they said or did, I will go over it over and over again. Asking questions why are they so mean, I did not do anything to deserve this or that. This way of dealing with live will keep me in prison of my mind, will keep me under influence of their behaviour, like I said like a ball in the wind.
No no no!!!!! no longer do I make that choice!!!! If I am hurt it is MY FAULT!!!! I did it wrong!!! I took what they other said personally. I want them to see me as being nice, good, kind etc blablabla. Which sometimes they will do but only because they themselves want to be seen as being kind, good, nice, etc. NO no no. no longer am I going to depend on what other think of me!!!
I have to know what and whom I am. Accept myself in every moment as I am. If I feel hurt, I feel hurt but no longer blame the other as the cause of it! I look at myself and look at where I go wrong by identifying with what has been said.
If someone says I am bad! or I am not good enough, or I am ugly, or stupid, or whatever I have a choice what to do with those words.
A; I can take it serious, give it importance which will make me feel insecure, unhappy, and tremendously hurt, sad. This is an endless circle because we might be able to make one person stop hurting me, but they will be replaced by 10 others. Am I going to tell all of those people what they should or should not say? so that I will no longer feel hurt? or...
B: I can take a look why I feel hurt, sad, unhappy because of something someone else has said. Ask my self why do I find it important for them to like me? because I don't like myself! Why do I find it important for them to see me as a good person? Because I do not see myself as a good person, I do many things wrong and I hate that, I try to hide that!
The moment I accept that I have not such a nice thoughts about others sometimes is the moment that I start feeling good about myself. I know it is not bad to have bad thoughts sometimes, as long as we do not identify with those thoughts as being what we are!
Total Love for all can only be when we total love others and self. Others and self are all one you know! If we stop judging self we stop judging others. One comes with the other, there is no separation although most people think there is. Because my body is here and your body is there we think we are separated. Yes we see two forms called body, but they are connected.
Set yourself free! When you truly know who you are no one can control how you feel no longer. Is that not the best gift you can ever give yourself?
If me saying to you that you are beautiful and this makes you feel happy, I can also take that happy feeling away from you. That is not what you want for yourself do you?
People who use words to communicate something to use are their for a reason. when they create a feeling of hurt inside of use they are doing us a service! This does not mean that people are allowed to be intentionally cruel to another being, but even if they are making that choice Karma, cause and effect will sooner or later balance this out.
So I am grateful to each person who shows me that they can push my buttons as I call it. If I get upset by something someone else says or does, I give away my power, my sanity, my peace. I give them control over my mind because I will keep thinking about what they said or did, I will go over it over and over again. Asking questions why are they so mean, I did not do anything to deserve this or that. This way of dealing with live will keep me in prison of my mind, will keep me under influence of their behaviour, like I said like a ball in the wind.
No no no!!!!! no longer do I make that choice!!!! If I am hurt it is MY FAULT!!!! I did it wrong!!! I took what they other said personally. I want them to see me as being nice, good, kind etc blablabla. Which sometimes they will do but only because they themselves want to be seen as being kind, good, nice, etc. NO no no. no longer am I going to depend on what other think of me!!!
I have to know what and whom I am. Accept myself in every moment as I am. If I feel hurt, I feel hurt but no longer blame the other as the cause of it! I look at myself and look at where I go wrong by identifying with what has been said.
If someone says I am bad! or I am not good enough, or I am ugly, or stupid, or whatever I have a choice what to do with those words.
A; I can take it serious, give it importance which will make me feel insecure, unhappy, and tremendously hurt, sad. This is an endless circle because we might be able to make one person stop hurting me, but they will be replaced by 10 others. Am I going to tell all of those people what they should or should not say? so that I will no longer feel hurt? or...
B: I can take a look why I feel hurt, sad, unhappy because of something someone else has said. Ask my self why do I find it important for them to like me? because I don't like myself! Why do I find it important for them to see me as a good person? Because I do not see myself as a good person, I do many things wrong and I hate that, I try to hide that!
The moment I accept that I have not such a nice thoughts about others sometimes is the moment that I start feeling good about myself. I know it is not bad to have bad thoughts sometimes, as long as we do not identify with those thoughts as being what we are!
Total Love for all can only be when we total love others and self. Others and self are all one you know! If we stop judging self we stop judging others. One comes with the other, there is no separation although most people think there is. Because my body is here and your body is there we think we are separated. Yes we see two forms called body, but they are connected.
Set yourself free! When you truly know who you are no one can control how you feel no longer. Is that not the best gift you can ever give yourself?
If me saying to you that you are beautiful and this makes you feel happy, I can also take that happy feeling away from you. That is not what you want for yourself do you?
while looking from my mountain top
While looking at the world from your mountain top while I am looking at the world from my mountain top lets fly somewhere today, together while holding hands and leave our separate mountain tops and enjoy the view from above while we look down on the world beneath us feeling the wind blowing through our beautiful hair, cleansing us from all the dust we collected while standing on our mountain tops!
Someone said: “……….this is really stupid. Breasts are the most useless bodyparts you can imagine. I hate them because wearing a bra is a lifelong punishment”
Breasts are part of the female body, calling them useless is totally useless.
Fighting something that is given by nature, has a purpose within the female system is useless.
Wearing a bra is optional, if it is seen as punishment why wear one? let them be as they are in any situation!
Breasts are the gateway to heaven in my experience. The are like activating buttons, which are deeply connected with my vagina.
Never experience it as such until I became deeply aware inside myself through spiritual practice.
Breasts are just flesh but why make the choice to underestimate them? just because you do not have experienced them yourself other then through the mind in dislike and likes.
Love!
Breasts are part of the female body, calling them useless is totally useless.
Fighting something that is given by nature, has a purpose within the female system is useless.
Wearing a bra is optional, if it is seen as punishment why wear one? let them be as they are in any situation!
Breasts are the gateway to heaven in my experience. The are like activating buttons, which are deeply connected with my vagina.
Never experience it as such until I became deeply aware inside myself through spiritual practice.
Breasts are just flesh but why make the choice to underestimate them? just because you do not have experienced them yourself other then through the mind in dislike and likes.
Love!
When we do not know who and what we are will have long stressing implications. As long as we are not centred within self we will be searching each moment in each day outside our self to find something. Most people do not even know what they are looking for.
Yes, of course when they go shopping they think that they are going out to buy something’s they need. But it goes much deeper then that. There is an underlying stream which makes that we keep creating needs and wants. Put aside the bare minimal need to keep the physical body healthy and strong, all other needs and wants are created from not knowing what we are, not knowing self, but strongly living outside of self, completely enslaved, without knowing this is going on.
When we go out we go out with an expecting feeling, this expectation gives an existing feeling, a feeling which we make ourselves believe, makes us feel alive. Without something to look forward for we label those moments as being boring. There is nothing that stimulates our needs and wants which we experience as being boring moments, waste of life, and on top of this we start looking around and blame the person we are with. It is their fault, they are boring, no longer stimulating, annoying, working on our nerves, making us feel unloved, unappreciated, etc.
This is so far from the truth still 99% of the people live this way. 99% of the population in the developed countries live from one stimulation moment to the next. Always on the go. Always on the look out for something that will bring something into their lives.
Look around you, observe it. It is so easy to see. Men working, driving their cars from a to b, their eyes are wandering around, scanning the environment, looking for any kind of stimulation. If can be a beautiful woman walking the streets, a beautiful dream car, anything that tickets their fancy. Anything is better then being in the moment within themselves.
Most people do not even know this is possible, they will even argue that they are within themselves, where else can they be, what nonsense are you talking about! And of they go continuing what they have done from the moment they started developing the earthly mind. This is becoming a slave to outside stimulation, this getting lost in the outside world is a continuously repeated cycle given from parents to children.
When parents are not aware they will create children which will just like them become unaware. What we are we create. If we believe we are this we will create this. If we believe we are that we will create that. It is that simple. Slaves will create slaves. In the Bible it is written that; “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them (Genesis 1:23 27). We are all God only most people do not longer know this, they no longer are aware of that which they are; God. Instead they have gone astray, lost in the outside world no longer connected within them self, rooted within self. Now they still create, children, and create them in their own image, the image of slaves to the outside world, just as they are themselves.
Let me take an example out of my own experience, my own environment. Please do not think for one moment that I knew what I was. I was lost, addicted just like most people up until the age of 40. Then slowly I started to become aware, I started to wake up from the illusion, which I called my reality. I will tell you about my awakening later on. For now let me take you into an example which plays itself out within my environment at this very minute.
A young mother of 22 has a high need of socialising with her friends up to the point that she will be out and about a few nights each week. Her excuse for this behaviour is that she is still young and that it is the normal thing to do. Staying at home most of the time during the day to give the baby a stable environment turned out to be a very hard task, much harder then she had ever imagined.
Now while her lovely baby boy grows up within his first year he is taken all places at all times a day making it impossible for the young fellow to settle into a routine. The first few month’s the effect of this is not so obvious because a healthy newly born sleeps most of the day no matter where or with whom it is. Then we reach the stage in which a few month’s old baby starts being awake more and more but still in need of regular sleep during the day time.
This need for regularity is not possible and turns irregular when the mother has a strong need for outside stimulation. Not only will she never find outside herself what she is looking for, but she also disrupts her baby’s rhythm. A baby who does not sleeps enough will become demanding in the form of crying. It demands sleep, it shows the natural signs before it starts crying by rubbing its eyes, rolling the head to one side and relaxing into itself. Small but clear signs that the baby is ready to be put in a peaceful environment so it can recharge its battery.
Mothers with a high need for self stimulation will not have much eye for those little signs, they will miss them, override them with the result a crying, screaming baby. The mother wanted to go here and there but this baby becomes increasingly more hard work, interfering with what she wants to do. This had all kinds of effects on herself, and the people around her.
The crying of the child will take energy away from the mother. It is present within a baby to cry to secure its survival, it is the baby’s only way of communicating its physical needs. When a mother is able to read the signs of the baby the crying is brought back to a minimum, even with days of it not being there at all. There are baby’s who do not need to cry because the mother is deeply tuned into the baby. This does not mean that a mother with a crying baby is a bad mother. This is complete nonsense. Crying is there to make sure the baby is taken notice of when it comes to physical needs.
When those needs are met there is no reason for a baby to cry unless it has a physical discomfort in the form of cramps, dirty nappy, etc.
First mistake many parents make is not giving the baby the right environment to sleep. It should be safe, peaceful, clean and comfortable in temperature. It should be regular depending on the baby’s needs. Learning to read the signs makes that the mother has to focus her full attention on the new baby. It comes with its own instructions. But when a parent runs around satisfying its own needs the needs of the baby will come second place.
When a baby does not get good restful sleep it will start influencing the baby’s development in many ways and this will have
One of the things this young mother likes to do is drink which she associates with having a good time. Not so surprising knowing that her dad is addicted to alcohol and her mum is a regular pub goer as well.
The British culture has very much so integrated alcohol as an expectable part of daily live. For many people the Friday night is spend in a pub as an end to a working week. Many feel that this is a well deserved treat. Seeing drunk women is a very common occurrence within the British society. I was brought up in Holland in a different culture in comparison to the British culture. In Holland being drunk is looked upon by others especially being a woman.
Regular drinking did not exist in my environment while growing up. Drinking alcohol was only done on a birthday of an adult, not in a pub but in the family home with other family members and some close friends. And never to the point of drunkenness. Moderation was the motto, enjoy but moderate. British culture seems to be different when it comes to alcohol use. I have observed that many people drink to get drunk, as fast as possible.
I link this behaviour, this need, to the old days when British people where living in a very strict code of moralistic conduct, know as the stiff upper lip. You did not show feelings or emotions, all needed to be kept inside. Then on a Friday night all those suppressed feelings are let go of under the umbrella of being drunk. All breaks are taken off and all suppressed feelings, emotions starts pouring out as if a dam has been opened and the water build up behind it rushes through in a violent way.
This wild streak is definitely present within the British people setting them apart from other cultures. A kind of madness comes out ending up in all kinds of behaviour often expressed through fighting, aggression, etc. Madness created by suppression. When we can’t express ourselves in each moment we build up tension within our physical system. It is stored in our thinking center; head, in our emotional center; belly, and in our muscles in the form of contraction without actually using the muscle for any kind of movement.
Because we don’t know our self, we are totally unaware of this going on. This tension will build up and up until no longer held in. People who have not learned a high skill of self-control, known as having a temper, will blow, and they will take it out on someone or something around them. It can be anything that triggers them off into the letting go.
Mostly it is not that which is in front of them that caused the explosion, it was just the final drop that made the emotions pour out. People who have been trained through being disciplined by parents to a degree that they will not explode, will have to deal with ill health sooner or later. The price will be paid. All has cause and effect.
Tension has to be released some how. And the physical system can only take as much tension as it is strong. Ill health is nothing more then damage tissue, cells, atom clusters which have been under a certain amount of stress until they explode, burst.
The moment we know how cause and effect works, the moment we have woken up, become aware of what we are, we can play all roles within each society without it causing any tension within the physical system. We are no longer slaves to this society to our need and wants created within each society.
It is no wonder that the young woman I spoke of earlier on is lost, a slave to wants and needs. When I sit on her sofa and observe how her daily live goes on it is not hard to understand how it all works. A big size TV with the most amazing images streams information into her living room as soon as she gets up until she goes to bed.
Programs are adjusted depending if her little baby boy is in the living room. At moments the little fellow is in the room children programs are streamed down on his, one after the other until he goes to bed, only to be repeated the next day. When the little boy is not in the room the young woman watches Music channels or so called Soaps. On the music channels one video clip after the other streams into my brain. All are centering around sexual expressions of body and or language are used to do this.
Scenes are played out in night clubs, beaches full with dancing people, drinking alcohol and showing what a great time they are having. In the soaps scenarios are played out around conflicts based on sexual behaviour with all the jealousy and greed that comes with it. Screaming people are seen in almost all scenes, or crying people who feel wrong done by someone dying, or by losing some material thing or person to someone else.
What chance does this young woman watching this day in day out stand to breaking out of that vicious circle? Are we then completely unaware that what we see we follow? When this young woman does not get any other examples shown to her, how can she bring up her little boy without him getting addicted to outside simulation as well as deeply as she is?
How can we take it against her when she does not even know how it works, how she is kept into her addiction by the media, by the people around her who are just as much lost as she is? Did Jesus not say; “Father forgive them for they do not know what they are doing! (Luke 23:11 31). This young woman does not know the workings of cause and effect.
Yes, she knows the working of cause and effect in the outside world, she knows how to get what she thinks she wants or needs, but she does not know the cause and effect from a higher perspective, how it will influence happenings decades from now by what she does now at this very moment. How can we judge her? Should we judge her?
What would this judging do? I see how people around her judge her, condemn her, criticise her, telling her how she should or should not be, what she should or should not do. She has been criticised her whole live. Told what to do, what not to do, her whole live. This is the cause of her no longer knowing what she is.
From a very early age we start telling children what they can and can not do. Yes, we have the duty to keep them safe, but this privilege is misused by many. We start taking it out on our children when we are not balanced our self. When we are tired we become sensitive toward others behaviours even more then usual. Children are corrected constantly or not at all. Frustration within the adult is taken out on the children the weaker around them.
Listen how adults talk to children! Without judging them just listen, to others and yourself, observe and you will be amazed. It is easier to see it in others then in self. Ego will always make you believe that it is different in your own situation. It will give you reasons why it is justified to do what you are going.
Criticising this young woman is not the way out. Making her aware of how it works is the way forward. But how many people do know themselves? Do you know any one who has awakened?
Observing how the father of the young woman’s baby treats this woman is heartbreaking at times, and visa versa. They have both no idea how to relate to each other. Yes, they could have sex together, they could have a great drink together, often ending up in physical fighting with each other, they could take drugs together, go shopping buying material things together, but just being with each other without doing anything?
No way that is and impossible thing to do, doing nothing. Why is it impossible? they have never had any example by seeing others doing this not doing, not searching, not stimulating themselves with something outside themselves? Remember: “….created man in his own image….”.Children do what parents do. They repeat what they see around them. This starts from a very early age. This is how they learn to survive on their own.
The little baby sits on the floor and sees you putting something in your mouth. It wants to do the same thing. Not because it is greedy, but because it knows innately that it has to mimic those around him.
Have you ever sat still, closed your eyes, and looked around inside yourself? Have you ever arrived in that silent place within your physical body and met that which you are? I know we can all look around us, look at our body through the use of a mirror, or looking down at our body for as far this is possible, but did you ever looked at the body from the inside?
Truly experienced your physical body within? Probably not. So how can children who are born within this state, no outside world exists to begin with, no separation exists when they come into this world. To the baby there is no him and others, it just all is. Slowly bit by bit we bring the baby outside himself.
We call his name, we touch him, we give him things to play with, we play music to him, we turn the TV on so he has something to watch which will keep him quite which will be easier on us, giving us moments to stimulate us with what we wants or need to do, to get what we want.
To change all this we have to start with self. This world is not going to be a different place as soon as everybody else of which we think are causing all the problems affecting us. No, this world start changing straight away the moment we start understanding self, knowing self! Immediately a change takes place. No matter that others stay slaves, the way you feel, the way you see things, the way you experience people around you, it all changes instantly.
Only you, can make that your child does not grow up ending up being a slave to outside needs, just like yourself. Only you can change this. If you stay a slave your child will end up just like you, although you will try really hard to do a better job then your parents did on you.
Not possible. In the end he will end up being a slave. Ok he might not been beaten as much as you were. He might have had more toys then you had. He might have had a nicer environment to grow up in. He might have had more cuddles, kisses, expressions of love, then you had. But all that will still lead to the same point. It will all make him a slave only to others wants and needs then you.
You needed more love, lesser beatings, more affection, more acceptance of who you think you are, you need to be seen as a good person etc. Your child will be a slave to all the things you gave or didn’t gave to him while growing up. Different package, same effect.
Telling people will not do the trick. It is step one but many more steps are needed to balance the outside pull out. You can not tell an alcoholic to stop drinking by taking the bottle from his hand but leave him sitting in a bath filled with alcohol.
On the other hand you can not make someone see what you have come to see. You can lead a cow to the water but you can not make it drink it. That is up to them. When they become really thirsty then they will start drinking. Same with spiritual awakening.
Mostly people have to go through great suffering before they become ready to let go of that which they have become adjusted to. No matter how damaging the way they live might be, it is what they are used to, and this gives a feeling of security. Better stay with what you know then to let go not knowing where you might end up.
The more needy we are the less we can give. The giving of a needy personality is done in expectation of getting something in return. When this not happens the needy person feels taken advantage of, it has come short out of the deal, they are now even more needy then before, and will do anything to bring back the balance towards their advantage.
This is done through many power games played between people in all relationships. I rub your ego and you rub mine. I make you feel special and by doing so you might think that I am a good person and that is my reward. I will play the kind person so you will be kind to me in return which will give me a nice stimulating feeling because it was me that was kind first, this gives a feeling of control, of power, which in turn makes us feel good, alive.
How can a young mother who is in need of going out apply to the needs of her young boy? A needy personality will bring another needy personality into society.
The father of the young baby does not live with the young mother. He knows intellectually within his own thinking how the baby should be brought up. He tells the young mother about all the things she does wrong which will have a negative effect on their relationship.
While he tells the young mother that she should stay home with the baby in the same breath he tells her about him going out himself leaving her with the young child. This is a very common thing between people. We accuse the other of that which we do ourselves.
Yes, of course when they go shopping they think that they are going out to buy something’s they need. But it goes much deeper then that. There is an underlying stream which makes that we keep creating needs and wants. Put aside the bare minimal need to keep the physical body healthy and strong, all other needs and wants are created from not knowing what we are, not knowing self, but strongly living outside of self, completely enslaved, without knowing this is going on.
When we go out we go out with an expecting feeling, this expectation gives an existing feeling, a feeling which we make ourselves believe, makes us feel alive. Without something to look forward for we label those moments as being boring. There is nothing that stimulates our needs and wants which we experience as being boring moments, waste of life, and on top of this we start looking around and blame the person we are with. It is their fault, they are boring, no longer stimulating, annoying, working on our nerves, making us feel unloved, unappreciated, etc.
This is so far from the truth still 99% of the people live this way. 99% of the population in the developed countries live from one stimulation moment to the next. Always on the go. Always on the look out for something that will bring something into their lives.
Look around you, observe it. It is so easy to see. Men working, driving their cars from a to b, their eyes are wandering around, scanning the environment, looking for any kind of stimulation. If can be a beautiful woman walking the streets, a beautiful dream car, anything that tickets their fancy. Anything is better then being in the moment within themselves.
Most people do not even know this is possible, they will even argue that they are within themselves, where else can they be, what nonsense are you talking about! And of they go continuing what they have done from the moment they started developing the earthly mind. This is becoming a slave to outside stimulation, this getting lost in the outside world is a continuously repeated cycle given from parents to children.
When parents are not aware they will create children which will just like them become unaware. What we are we create. If we believe we are this we will create this. If we believe we are that we will create that. It is that simple. Slaves will create slaves. In the Bible it is written that; “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them (Genesis 1:23 27). We are all God only most people do not longer know this, they no longer are aware of that which they are; God. Instead they have gone astray, lost in the outside world no longer connected within them self, rooted within self. Now they still create, children, and create them in their own image, the image of slaves to the outside world, just as they are themselves.
Let me take an example out of my own experience, my own environment. Please do not think for one moment that I knew what I was. I was lost, addicted just like most people up until the age of 40. Then slowly I started to become aware, I started to wake up from the illusion, which I called my reality. I will tell you about my awakening later on. For now let me take you into an example which plays itself out within my environment at this very minute.
A young mother of 22 has a high need of socialising with her friends up to the point that she will be out and about a few nights each week. Her excuse for this behaviour is that she is still young and that it is the normal thing to do. Staying at home most of the time during the day to give the baby a stable environment turned out to be a very hard task, much harder then she had ever imagined.
Now while her lovely baby boy grows up within his first year he is taken all places at all times a day making it impossible for the young fellow to settle into a routine. The first few month’s the effect of this is not so obvious because a healthy newly born sleeps most of the day no matter where or with whom it is. Then we reach the stage in which a few month’s old baby starts being awake more and more but still in need of regular sleep during the day time.
This need for regularity is not possible and turns irregular when the mother has a strong need for outside stimulation. Not only will she never find outside herself what she is looking for, but she also disrupts her baby’s rhythm. A baby who does not sleeps enough will become demanding in the form of crying. It demands sleep, it shows the natural signs before it starts crying by rubbing its eyes, rolling the head to one side and relaxing into itself. Small but clear signs that the baby is ready to be put in a peaceful environment so it can recharge its battery.
Mothers with a high need for self stimulation will not have much eye for those little signs, they will miss them, override them with the result a crying, screaming baby. The mother wanted to go here and there but this baby becomes increasingly more hard work, interfering with what she wants to do. This had all kinds of effects on herself, and the people around her.
The crying of the child will take energy away from the mother. It is present within a baby to cry to secure its survival, it is the baby’s only way of communicating its physical needs. When a mother is able to read the signs of the baby the crying is brought back to a minimum, even with days of it not being there at all. There are baby’s who do not need to cry because the mother is deeply tuned into the baby. This does not mean that a mother with a crying baby is a bad mother. This is complete nonsense. Crying is there to make sure the baby is taken notice of when it comes to physical needs.
When those needs are met there is no reason for a baby to cry unless it has a physical discomfort in the form of cramps, dirty nappy, etc.
First mistake many parents make is not giving the baby the right environment to sleep. It should be safe, peaceful, clean and comfortable in temperature. It should be regular depending on the baby’s needs. Learning to read the signs makes that the mother has to focus her full attention on the new baby. It comes with its own instructions. But when a parent runs around satisfying its own needs the needs of the baby will come second place.
When a baby does not get good restful sleep it will start influencing the baby’s development in many ways and this will have
One of the things this young mother likes to do is drink which she associates with having a good time. Not so surprising knowing that her dad is addicted to alcohol and her mum is a regular pub goer as well.
The British culture has very much so integrated alcohol as an expectable part of daily live. For many people the Friday night is spend in a pub as an end to a working week. Many feel that this is a well deserved treat. Seeing drunk women is a very common occurrence within the British society. I was brought up in Holland in a different culture in comparison to the British culture. In Holland being drunk is looked upon by others especially being a woman.
Regular drinking did not exist in my environment while growing up. Drinking alcohol was only done on a birthday of an adult, not in a pub but in the family home with other family members and some close friends. And never to the point of drunkenness. Moderation was the motto, enjoy but moderate. British culture seems to be different when it comes to alcohol use. I have observed that many people drink to get drunk, as fast as possible.
I link this behaviour, this need, to the old days when British people where living in a very strict code of moralistic conduct, know as the stiff upper lip. You did not show feelings or emotions, all needed to be kept inside. Then on a Friday night all those suppressed feelings are let go of under the umbrella of being drunk. All breaks are taken off and all suppressed feelings, emotions starts pouring out as if a dam has been opened and the water build up behind it rushes through in a violent way.
This wild streak is definitely present within the British people setting them apart from other cultures. A kind of madness comes out ending up in all kinds of behaviour often expressed through fighting, aggression, etc. Madness created by suppression. When we can’t express ourselves in each moment we build up tension within our physical system. It is stored in our thinking center; head, in our emotional center; belly, and in our muscles in the form of contraction without actually using the muscle for any kind of movement.
Because we don’t know our self, we are totally unaware of this going on. This tension will build up and up until no longer held in. People who have not learned a high skill of self-control, known as having a temper, will blow, and they will take it out on someone or something around them. It can be anything that triggers them off into the letting go.
Mostly it is not that which is in front of them that caused the explosion, it was just the final drop that made the emotions pour out. People who have been trained through being disciplined by parents to a degree that they will not explode, will have to deal with ill health sooner or later. The price will be paid. All has cause and effect.
Tension has to be released some how. And the physical system can only take as much tension as it is strong. Ill health is nothing more then damage tissue, cells, atom clusters which have been under a certain amount of stress until they explode, burst.
The moment we know how cause and effect works, the moment we have woken up, become aware of what we are, we can play all roles within each society without it causing any tension within the physical system. We are no longer slaves to this society to our need and wants created within each society.
It is no wonder that the young woman I spoke of earlier on is lost, a slave to wants and needs. When I sit on her sofa and observe how her daily live goes on it is not hard to understand how it all works. A big size TV with the most amazing images streams information into her living room as soon as she gets up until she goes to bed.
Programs are adjusted depending if her little baby boy is in the living room. At moments the little fellow is in the room children programs are streamed down on his, one after the other until he goes to bed, only to be repeated the next day. When the little boy is not in the room the young woman watches Music channels or so called Soaps. On the music channels one video clip after the other streams into my brain. All are centering around sexual expressions of body and or language are used to do this.
Scenes are played out in night clubs, beaches full with dancing people, drinking alcohol and showing what a great time they are having. In the soaps scenarios are played out around conflicts based on sexual behaviour with all the jealousy and greed that comes with it. Screaming people are seen in almost all scenes, or crying people who feel wrong done by someone dying, or by losing some material thing or person to someone else.
What chance does this young woman watching this day in day out stand to breaking out of that vicious circle? Are we then completely unaware that what we see we follow? When this young woman does not get any other examples shown to her, how can she bring up her little boy without him getting addicted to outside simulation as well as deeply as she is?
How can we take it against her when she does not even know how it works, how she is kept into her addiction by the media, by the people around her who are just as much lost as she is? Did Jesus not say; “Father forgive them for they do not know what they are doing! (Luke 23:11 31). This young woman does not know the workings of cause and effect.
Yes, she knows the working of cause and effect in the outside world, she knows how to get what she thinks she wants or needs, but she does not know the cause and effect from a higher perspective, how it will influence happenings decades from now by what she does now at this very moment. How can we judge her? Should we judge her?
What would this judging do? I see how people around her judge her, condemn her, criticise her, telling her how she should or should not be, what she should or should not do. She has been criticised her whole live. Told what to do, what not to do, her whole live. This is the cause of her no longer knowing what she is.
From a very early age we start telling children what they can and can not do. Yes, we have the duty to keep them safe, but this privilege is misused by many. We start taking it out on our children when we are not balanced our self. When we are tired we become sensitive toward others behaviours even more then usual. Children are corrected constantly or not at all. Frustration within the adult is taken out on the children the weaker around them.
Listen how adults talk to children! Without judging them just listen, to others and yourself, observe and you will be amazed. It is easier to see it in others then in self. Ego will always make you believe that it is different in your own situation. It will give you reasons why it is justified to do what you are going.
Criticising this young woman is not the way out. Making her aware of how it works is the way forward. But how many people do know themselves? Do you know any one who has awakened?
Observing how the father of the young woman’s baby treats this woman is heartbreaking at times, and visa versa. They have both no idea how to relate to each other. Yes, they could have sex together, they could have a great drink together, often ending up in physical fighting with each other, they could take drugs together, go shopping buying material things together, but just being with each other without doing anything?
No way that is and impossible thing to do, doing nothing. Why is it impossible? they have never had any example by seeing others doing this not doing, not searching, not stimulating themselves with something outside themselves? Remember: “….created man in his own image….”.Children do what parents do. They repeat what they see around them. This starts from a very early age. This is how they learn to survive on their own.
The little baby sits on the floor and sees you putting something in your mouth. It wants to do the same thing. Not because it is greedy, but because it knows innately that it has to mimic those around him.
Have you ever sat still, closed your eyes, and looked around inside yourself? Have you ever arrived in that silent place within your physical body and met that which you are? I know we can all look around us, look at our body through the use of a mirror, or looking down at our body for as far this is possible, but did you ever looked at the body from the inside?
Truly experienced your physical body within? Probably not. So how can children who are born within this state, no outside world exists to begin with, no separation exists when they come into this world. To the baby there is no him and others, it just all is. Slowly bit by bit we bring the baby outside himself.
We call his name, we touch him, we give him things to play with, we play music to him, we turn the TV on so he has something to watch which will keep him quite which will be easier on us, giving us moments to stimulate us with what we wants or need to do, to get what we want.
To change all this we have to start with self. This world is not going to be a different place as soon as everybody else of which we think are causing all the problems affecting us. No, this world start changing straight away the moment we start understanding self, knowing self! Immediately a change takes place. No matter that others stay slaves, the way you feel, the way you see things, the way you experience people around you, it all changes instantly.
Only you, can make that your child does not grow up ending up being a slave to outside needs, just like yourself. Only you can change this. If you stay a slave your child will end up just like you, although you will try really hard to do a better job then your parents did on you.
Not possible. In the end he will end up being a slave. Ok he might not been beaten as much as you were. He might have had more toys then you had. He might have had a nicer environment to grow up in. He might have had more cuddles, kisses, expressions of love, then you had. But all that will still lead to the same point. It will all make him a slave only to others wants and needs then you.
You needed more love, lesser beatings, more affection, more acceptance of who you think you are, you need to be seen as a good person etc. Your child will be a slave to all the things you gave or didn’t gave to him while growing up. Different package, same effect.
Telling people will not do the trick. It is step one but many more steps are needed to balance the outside pull out. You can not tell an alcoholic to stop drinking by taking the bottle from his hand but leave him sitting in a bath filled with alcohol.
On the other hand you can not make someone see what you have come to see. You can lead a cow to the water but you can not make it drink it. That is up to them. When they become really thirsty then they will start drinking. Same with spiritual awakening.
Mostly people have to go through great suffering before they become ready to let go of that which they have become adjusted to. No matter how damaging the way they live might be, it is what they are used to, and this gives a feeling of security. Better stay with what you know then to let go not knowing where you might end up.
The more needy we are the less we can give. The giving of a needy personality is done in expectation of getting something in return. When this not happens the needy person feels taken advantage of, it has come short out of the deal, they are now even more needy then before, and will do anything to bring back the balance towards their advantage.
This is done through many power games played between people in all relationships. I rub your ego and you rub mine. I make you feel special and by doing so you might think that I am a good person and that is my reward. I will play the kind person so you will be kind to me in return which will give me a nice stimulating feeling because it was me that was kind first, this gives a feeling of control, of power, which in turn makes us feel good, alive.
How can a young mother who is in need of going out apply to the needs of her young boy? A needy personality will bring another needy personality into society.
The father of the young baby does not live with the young mother. He knows intellectually within his own thinking how the baby should be brought up. He tells the young mother about all the things she does wrong which will have a negative effect on their relationship.
While he tells the young mother that she should stay home with the baby in the same breath he tells her about him going out himself leaving her with the young child. This is a very common thing between people. We accuse the other of that which we do ourselves.
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